Fw: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2002.09.19 at 01:51:53(9435) Per your request, here it is Ron! (My comp. was down the last four days, but I`m back!) Julius +More >>Julius, Thank you for the consideration the preview of which I hope you will put on Aroid-L for further discussion & memorable cartoon visions. It will bring out orang utans like yourself, elephants & maybe weevils. I think the whole lot is funny beginning with the tempting word randy. R. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Ron Iles" Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated) ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated) Ron, Just a quick note to keep in contact--- Just a couple of observations on your missive (below) that do not seem correct--- >Stinky Durians are eaten either by unsmelling animals, or coprophiles or coprophobes that can stand the stink before they eat the custard within. The purpose of the Durian like all fruit is to disperse seeds. One reason for the stink is to repel little coprophobes that would burrow into the hard unripe fruit & make it drop prematurely next to the parent tree which would not be good for wide dispersal. << The green fruit of Durians (like most or all fruit) do not have an odour of dung like when they are 'green' or developing, so could not repel (or attract) any insects, coprophiles OR coprophobes, but I`d bet if there are any seed weevils specific to durians they would do their dirty work no matter what. >>Having repelled the little b***** the soft stinky is then free to ripen, drop, break in half & voila along will come a BIG hungry lumbering bear (bigger than a Titan Member) or some other animal that can carry it & knows about the custard & that animal then runs away manically with the whole darn lot & scatters seed for miles & miles. (see the cartoon which wouldn't go on Aroid-L). So, you see THAT's why there are so many stinky Durians everywhere. So, the stink of the Durian is to REPEL. Ok with the story so far?<< The smell of Durians is to ATTRACT the oranguatns and elephants which consume the fruit, seeds and all, then later eliminate the seeds with their dung far away from the parent tree. The dung acts as fertilizer, giving the seedlings a good start in life. >>The stink of A. titanum ATTRACTS little coprophiles to pollinate them. But what creatures disperse the non-smelling useless fruit? Apparently the now endangered hornbill which is stink blind anyway? Maybe there are other non smelling creatures to take its place when that too is gone? I assume titanum fruit are not stinky otherwise it couldn't be dispersed by high class coprophobes?. Smellers are surely not going to go near a fruiting titanum to eat its fruit if stinky flowering plants are all around, If the stinking titanum inflorescences were mixed up with fruited plants the large coprophobes might not come at all. Maybe some smelling animals which know about the glorious custard would rush into the stink grab the thing & run like hell as far away as possible? If they are BIG coprophiles & there were forests of these stinks maybe they'd eat the mighty inflorescences too. Then what use would your beast be to posterity if its member was eaten before it had done its job? If now that the hornbills have crocked maybe its a good thing that Amorphos are solitary so they can still attract the little coprophiles when they're on heat & other big unsmelling smelly animals who will run away like hell with the fruit after the member has made little seeds? Effective pollination for solitaries depends on their making enough stink to fumigate a County. OK so they can do that? Effective seed dissemination by decently smelling animals depends on absence of stink? Titanum stink is needed both to attract to pollinate & to repel coprophiles which might otherwise eat entire virgin members. So as those dratted Titans & Hornbills get more & more sparse is it now single stink molecule sensitive coprophiles for conception, & big stupid brave glutton coprophobes for delivery?<< Like most Aroid fruit, the outer fruit portion of the ripe red fruit of A. titanum are sweet and pleasant tasting. The hornbills (and I believe bulbul birds) swallow the friut whole, quickly digest the outer covering in their craws, then re-gurgitate (vomit) the unharmed large seeds up and out away from the parent plant. Because of the thin 'skins' on Amorphophallus seeds I do not think they would survive a 'trip' through the entire alementary canal of a hornbill. Are you OK still? >>One A. titanum in any region is enough because the stink is extremely potent, & its coprophilic pollinators extremely sensitive to its noxious odour molecules at astronomice distances. High density of members & suffocating stink would drive away or anaesthetise even maybe those pollinator flies & finally discourage all seed dissemination by "alternative" coproPHOBES & turn other forms of life competing for the same habitats into rabid Phalloidophobes & little butchers envious of giant symbolic phalli. This gestalt explains the low density of the titanums which you said was actually the case.<< Funny! In the case of coprophylic insects the rule seems to be 'the more the merrier', for them more is better, a larger food source for them and their larvae. >>I am a coprophobe & my earliest toilet training was successful. I have passed fully through the normal infants pre-occupation with its own litter about ninety five years ago.So I tolerate the sight of absurdly & impractically sized members symbols at amused distances whilst remaining true to my decently learned coprophobia by wearing healthy protective nose filters. So for me one titanum per square kilometre is enough, too much actually.<< This is a GOOD thing, Ron. You will be welcome at any meeting of a group of people. Thanks for letting us know!! :--)> >>I do not eat my beloved Spathiphyllum. But DO try them they are toxic. You might also try the psychological aphrodisiac & creative inspirational effects of working in an environment where the perfume of these wonders, like that of a heavenly woman emanates at high concentration. Dreamy, Man. Works wonders for your romance life & can gives that special "lift" to jaded Members such as maybe yourselves.<< A new GREEN pill on the market soon??? 'Viagraphyllum', or perhaps Spathiviag' ??? >>Although it does not have the magical psychological effects of Spathifeelia, I eat Durian flesh avidly as available & in the bush that of course assists in the wider dispersal of the through litter scatter RIPE Durian stink may be chemically & functionally different from that of Titanum certainly not as subtle as that of Spathifeelia. Apparently it does not attract flies even when grown as mighty forests. In such forests, after a while even coprophobic noses would surely become acclimatised to the stink as their owners indulge gluttonously in custard feasts.<< Where did you early toilet training fail you, Ron!?!?!?! You can actually stand to EAT durian flesh????? Enough! Have a great day, Julius

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