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From: Eduardo
[mailto:eduardo.goncalves@inhotim.org.br]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010
6:56 PM
To: 'Discussion
of aroids'; 'Aroid list'; Tom Croat;
'Josef Bogner'; 'Steve Marak'
Subject: RES: [Aroid-l] Urgent
Request from Tom Croat, a strange
new collection (fwd)
Dear Peter,
The
hypothesis of an escaped Aglaonema (quite common in some places in Amazonia) is just a clue to check on it, not a final
word. Indians use to keep beautiful plants with them as charms
(“beenas”, as Julius would love to mention) and many cultivated
exotic species can be found in abandoned settlements (including sansevieras and
variegated Colocasia). Anyhow, discarding this hypothesis and considering many
aspects, it could even be something else. In my opinion (only based on a limited
set of pictures, together with a description) it doesnt seem to be closer to
Bognera than to any other “philodendroid” genus. However,
considering that Bognera is monospecific, we simply know nothing about
acceptable intraspecific variation. The “third” species of Bognera
from Northern Brazil has just proven to be a
brand new genus! (confirmed by molecular phylogeny)
Dear Tom,
Tomorrow I will
check if our A. costatum is flowering and, if so, I will send you a picture.
But there is a nice close up of the inflorescence of this species in
href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aglaonema_costatum_003.JPG">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aglaonema_costatum_003.JPG
.. It is impossible to see female flowers, but you can compare with your picture
(they are both at the male phase). It would also be useful to send your picture
to Peter. He knows Asian genera pretty well and his opinion would be really
important.
Very best wishes,
Eduardo.
INHOTIM
Dr. EDUARDO G. GONALVES
Curador Botnico
Jardim Botnico
Rua B, 20
35460-000 | Brumadinho | MG | Brasil
+55 31 3571.6638 Ramal Fixo
107 +55 31 9604.8618
Ramal 380
Rua Antnio de Albuquerque,
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30112-010 | Belo Horizonte | MG | Brasil
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De:
aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] Em nome de Peter Boyce
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 28 de
outubro de 2010 02:49
Para: 'Discussion
of aroids'; 'Aroid list'; 'Tom
Croat'; Josef Bogner; 'Steve Marak'
Assunto: Re: [Aroid-l] Urgent
Request from Tom Croat, a strange
new collection (fwd)
Prioridade: Alta
Tom,
This IS a new Bognera.
Josef knows all about this. He mentioned it to
me on the phone only last week.
Pete
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On Behalf Of Steve Marak
Sent: Thursday, 28 October, 2010 12:31 PM
To: Aroid list
Subject: [Aroid-l] Urgent Request from Tom Croat,
a strange new collection (fwd)
Aroiders,
The message below is from Tom
Croat, who is having problems getting it sent to the list, so
I've forwarded it.
(Note that if you just reply to this message, it won't go
to Tom, but rather to either the entire list [most likely] or me. I will of
course forward anything that comes to me to Tom, but just be aware that if you
want to communicate with Tom directly you'll have to change the address
manually to Tom's e-mail, Thomas.Croat@mobot.org )
Steve
-- Steve Marak
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:58:53 -0500
From: Tom Croat
Subject: Urgent Request to List members, a strange new
collection
Dear Aroiders:
I have described a plant collected in a remote habitat near the Brazilian
border in Peru.
It was collected by a friend in California
who has been growing it as an acuatic. It has a definitely creeping stem,
rather short petioles and in many respects looks like Aglaonema costatum.
It keyed out to Bognera and I assumed that it was a member
of that genus but Eduardo Gonalves has some doubts and is wondering if it
could have been an escaped horticultural collection. Although that seems
somewhat unlikely I would like to see any images that any of you might have of
Aglaonema costatum in order to make a better judement. It would be
especially useful to see a close up of the spadix if any of you have that
species in flower at this time.
Thanks in advance for any help that anyone can render.
Tom Croat
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