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Re: [Aroid-l] Pinellia pedatisecta Rec. Nov. 4,

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2010.06.12 at 06:47:32(21102)
It is Sauromatum horsfieldii (formerly Typhonium h.).
Cheers,
Wilbert
+More
> Marek:
>
> Are you saying that the images you attached are Typhonium
> pedatisecta? It does not match the images I have in my files.
> I think that these images look like a plant that is a real
> weed at my place. I will paste a picture of this to see if I
> can confirm what it is. I only know that it does not match
> the species in your picture. What was the place of origin of
> the material you sent?
>
>
>
> Tom
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> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:55 PM
> To: Alan Galloway; discussion of aroids
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pinellia pedatisecta Rec. Nov. 4,2005 as Ty.
> kumingense T-106
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> Dear Alan,
>
>
>
> So probably all two (!) other photos found by google on the web as T.
> kunmingense (except my plant) are also incorrectly identified.
>
> http://www.bensbotanics.co.uk/USERIMAGES/kunming4.jpg
>
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/152967203_c96f9a040d.jpg
>
> and my plant was identical, the spathe external side was brown,
>
> while in the IAS page photos of T. horsfieldii inflorescences vary from
> green through yellow to olive, no brown form shown,
>
> but the spadix looks the same as mine.
>
> http://www.aroid.org/genera/speciespage.php?genus=typhonium&species=h orsfieldii
>
>
>
> I see there must be a big mess in the small-tubered aroids sold on
> auctions and in "rarity" webshops.
>
> First I wanted to write to you about a Pinellia bought on an auction as
> "Typhonium alpinum".
>
> Today the first inflorescence opened, I took some photos and I noticed
> this is the same taxon as your photos of Pinellia ternata 'lanceolate leaf
> form'. I attach photos of my plant taken today.
>
>
>
> I don't doubt this is P. ternata, but for many years I've had a green
> spathed form with broad leaflets. I wonder how two so different forms of
> the same species could evolute, don't you think it is a subspecies, a
> variety or even a cultivar?
>
> http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/pinellia/ternata.htm
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Alan Galloway
>
> To: Marek Argent ; Discussion of aroids
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:48 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Pinellia pedatisecta Rec. Nov. 4, 2005 as Ty. kumingense
> T-106
>
>
>
> Marek,
>
>
>
> This is Typhonium horsfieldii.
>
>
>
> alan
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> From: Marek Argent
>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:24 PM
>
> To: Discussion of aroids ; Alan
> Galloway
>
> Subject: Pinellia pedatisecta Rec. Nov. 4, 2005 as Ty. kumingense T-106
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> This is 100% Pinellia pedatisecta.
>
> I had Typhonium kunmingense, and it looked so:
>
> http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/typhonium/kunmingense.htm
>
> I don't have better photos, the tubers died next season.
>
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>
> Best,
>
> Marek Argent
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