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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dieffenbachia hoffmannii photo?
The photo in Graf's material is very similar to Dieffenbachia seguine
(Jacq.) Schott. That species has a ton of synonym names but since"
hoffmanii" is not a legitimate name it isn't in the list. As I stated
earlier, Mr. Graf's books are a good photo source but Dr. Croat has
pointed out in several personal conversations his photos are often
improperly captioned.
I would suggest you go to the link below, check the photo, then click
on "specimens" at the top of the page. Scroll down to any that were
collected by Dr. Croat, scroll over to the right of the page and click
on his collection number. There you will find where he collected it
along with his field notes. Frequently there is enough material there
to make a good ID of a plant, just read as many of Tom's notes as
possible.
http://www.tropicos.org/Name/2106342
However, like all aroids this species can be variable. If you click
on the synonyms on the first page you'll find a long list of additional
names (now invalid) granted to this species. My guess is you likely
have a synonym of this species. Although your plant is far too old to
be one of the recent tissue cultures there are many variations being
created in tissue culture of this species that can be bought at many
stores.
I believe the species is in Dr. Croat's Revision of Dieffenbachia
(Araceae) of Mexico, Central America, and the West Indies but I don't
have a copy. If you have access to JSTOR I suggest you check out that
source.
For those on Aroid l not familiar with natural variability this link
may be useful. The article addresses why many of us have trouble
learning what species we are growing. I recently rewrote the entire
page and added a bunch of photos to illustrate how extreme variability
can be in aroid species. I've already asked several well known aroiders
to read the info and so far only one objection has come back to one
particular section. I addressed that and feel relatively confident the
material is scientifically accurate.
If any of you with a strong background in botany find an error I will
quickly address the problem:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Natural%20variation%20within%20aroid%20an
d%20%20plant%20species.html
Steve
www.ExoticRainforest.com
On 3/2/2010 08:10, Carol McCarthy wrote:
Hello Steve, John, Conrad and anyone else reading along,
I checked my database yesterday, I got the name from the same
source John quotes; A.B. Graph's Exotica; page 172 of Edition 9 to be
more exact. I will also note that the plant has been in one of two
university greenhouse here at WVU for at least 15 years. From what I
know of the collections, I do not believe that this material was
collected straight from habitat even back then. Whether it was bought,
traded for or a gift I do not have any records to enlighten me. The two
professors who might know are both long retired.
We have been doing an inventory update of the greenhouse
collections and working on correcting and updating questionable names
along the way. I guess for now, this one will stay questionable.
This Dieffenbachia grows very slowly and has a different,
deeper green than most. As the picture John attached shows a little,
the petioles show stripes and or dots of lighter colors on the deep
green ground color. Currently the plant is at another greenhouse across
campus, I will try to get a picture of this plant, whatever it is, in
the near future and post it. Since we have established that D.
hoffmannii is not a valid name does anyone have any suggestions as to a
correct identity?
Thanks to a great group for any help at all.
Carol.
Carol McCarthy
Greenhouse Manager
Biology Department
West Virginia University
PO Box 6057
53 Campus Drive
Morgantown, WV 26506
304-293-5201 ext 31477
>>> "John" 3/1/2010 2:19 PM >>>
I cannot give a source for the name Dieffenbachia hoffmannii but I
have in the 60s and 70s grown this Dieffenbachia, in fact it was a
favourite of mine. The name is no longer valid, if it ever was, but D.
‘Exotica’ or
‘arvida’ may be a mutation of
it, whatever it is. Both are said by Graf to be from Costa Rica.
The accompanying illustration may perhaps answer questions about
markings on stem and petiole.
John.
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