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From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:13 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Panama Aroid
Dear Pete, Harry:
Yes, I have commented on it. I said that I thought it was Philodendron subgen. Pteromischum and still do believe it is that despite Mike Grayum’s belief that it might not be. I have seen material exactly like this. No name, of course. Many of these buggers are new and you could never name one without flowers.
Tom
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:47 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Panama Aroid
Hi Harry, has Tom commented on it? It's definitely NOT hederaceum/scandens/micans, which have a very short petiolar sheath and an otherwise terete petiole; the venation is wrong for Monstera
Pete
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Harry Witmore wrote:
I have had another person send me a note off list saying the same thing. I haven't located a list of Philos in the subgenus yet but it helps.
Steve, I'm pretty sure this is not hederaceum or not like any of the many clones I have had. I haven't had any with a petiole like this one.
Michael, these are all the same plant although the first picture does look very much like a Monstera the rest of the plant doesn't look like any I have seen.
Thanks for the id's Jon and Steve. I forgot that folder existed.
Harry Witmore
Zone 7B NC
Cloud Jungle Epiphytes
www.cloudjungle.com
From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Peter Boyce
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:03 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Panama Aroid
Harry,
This looks to be a Philodendron in subgen. Pteromischum. THE expert on this group is Missouri's Mike Grayum.
Cheers
Peter
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Harry Witmore wrote:
This plant is being passed around the dart frog hobby since it makes such a nice small aroid to grow in terrariums. It was supposedly collected in Panama but I have no other info other than that. If someone had told me it was from Asia I would say it was a species of Pothos. Any ideas on the id?
http://www.cloudjungle.com/CloudJungle/Araceae/Unknown/Aroid_1_1.JPG
http://www.cloudjungle.com/CloudJungle/Araceae/Unknown/Aroid_1_2.JPG
http://www.cloudjungle.com/CloudJungle/Araceae/Unknown/Aroid_1_3.JPG
http://www.cloudjungle.com/CloudJungle/Araceae/Unknown/Aroid_1_4.JPG
Harry Witmore
Zone 7B NC
Cloud Jungle Epiphytes
www.cloudjungle.com
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