[Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata

From: botanist at malesiana.com (Peter Boyce) on 2008.07.08 at 21:45:53(18115) Hi Denis, I am quite surprised that no one has picked up on the last comment in your posting regarding the status of A. zebrina in cultivation. As you know, Alistair Hay in his herbarium-based account of Philippines' Alocasia (Gardens' Bulletin Singapore 51: 1-41 (1999)) treated A. zebrina as a variable species and included under that name A. wenzelii. He made no mention of the name A. tigrina (or A. zebrina tigrina) as this name and any combination thereof has never been formally published and thus from a strict botanical standpoint dos not exist. Goerverts et al. include a further name as a provisional syn. (A. liervalii) but without further discussion. Not withstanding the strict application of application of published names, it is clear to anyone who grows A. zebrina that there are several conspicuously different (but likewise clearly allied) entities in cultivation, among which the form with reticulated venation is particularly striking. What of course is needed is a comprehensive field study to try to untangle these cultivated clones and see where they may have originated. For that reason I have ccd this aroid-l posting to Melanie Medecilo in the Philippines; Melanie is currently working on Philippines' Alocasia and if anyone is able to shed some light on the status of the various clones of A. zebrina she can. Very best Peter +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis" To: "'Discussion of aroids'" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata > Alocasia zebrina 'reticulata' was subsequently tissue cultured by > Oglesby Plant Labs in the 1980's to satisfy the small collector's market > for this unusual plant. Only about 1,000 to 1,500 plants were produced > at that time. You might could ask Plantsman Jim Georgusis who currently > is working at Oglesby Plants if he knows anymore about the origins of > this cultivar. I think he worked at Fantastic Gardens in the 1970's. > > The plant is currently being produced in Tissue Culture at Agristarts, > Inc. in Apopka Florida. > > The question is still open as to whether or not Alocasia zebrina is true > species described in the literature somewhere or just a sub variety of > Alocasia tigrina group. > > Denis > Silver Krome Gardens, Inc. > Homestead Florida > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Harry Luther > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:05 PM > To: Discussion of aroids > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata > > > I believe that I first saw an Alocasia "reticulata" at Fantastic Gardens > in Miami in the summer of 1976 in their private, keep out stock house. > This was when the Mentelos family had the nursery. My memory may be off > a bit as its filled with bromeliad stuff. HEL > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of brian lee > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 2:27 PM > To: Discussion of aroids > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata > > > Dear Enid, > > Aloha. > > About 1986, Roberto Burle-Marx, Betty Ho, Robert Hirano, and I went to > the Philippines. Corazon Aquino just became President, and it was a > wild time. Our host, Ronnie Lane was murdered a week before our trip > and our new host was Dr. Vic Santos. There is an Alocasia 'Vic Santos' > that we brought in for the first time. Vic made sure that we got all > sorts of Philippine plants, including many Alocasia species...including > Alocasia zebrina and several forms. Soon after our trip, Vic was > murdered at his farm. I do not know much about Alocasia, but Bob Hirano > does. Bob's collections are maintained at Lyon Arboretum and they will > have records of all that was collected. Bob has retired and his eyes > were messed up in a botched operation. If this forum does not come up > with an answer for you, I can contact Ray Baker at the Arboretum and he > may have some information on their BG-base data system. Another source > of information may be at the Bernice Pauahi Bishop Museum. They were > involved in the Philippine Flora Project and I can contact Clyde Imada > to see if they have any records in conjunction with this program. > > I look forward to seeing what this thread reveals. > > Aloha, > > Leland > > > --- On Fri, 6/20/08, Enid wrote: > >> From: Enid >> Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata >> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com >> Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 4:55 PM >> OK, does anyone out there know where Alocasia zebrina reticulata >> originally came from? Is it a proper species or a mutant? >> Enid >> >> Natural Selections Exotics >> www.NSExotics.com_______________________________________________ >> Aroid-L mailing list >> Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >

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