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--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Eric Schmidt wrote:
> From: Eric Schmidt
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Mostera deliciosa--info. on different clones.
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:55 AM
> Here is the small leaf form we have in the collection.
> It has grown about 15ft up a tree. It is currently
> flowering and fruiting. In the last photo you can see
> seedlings ferminating at the base of the tree.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5vlzz5
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> http://tinyurl.com/68ebde
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> http://tinyurl.com/5p3u8r
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> Eric
> Orlando,FL
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> --- ju-bo at msn.com wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:12:03 -0700
> > > From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com
> > > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Mosterar deliciosa
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Jason, Leyland and all Aroidophiles,
> >
> > Aloha.
> > Vol 1 no. 1 also gave up another titbit of great
> > information, as in his profile of Monstera deliciosa
> > Madison states that "Several of the wild clones
> > which are not widely grown are dwarf forms,
> > achieving olny one third the size of the common
> > ones." The synonyms he lists are also
> interesting,
> > and food for someone with a better computer that I
> > own to investigate. First off, the
> ''correct''
> > name is Monstera deliciosa Lieb., Kjoeb, Vidensk,
> > Meddel 19: 9 (1849). The synonyms Madison lists
> > are, in order--M. borsigiana Engler [could this
> > name be based on the, or one of the dwarf forms
> > which we saw a photo of from Marak, and which had
> > this name attached???]; M. lennea Koch; Monstera
> > tacanensis Matuda; Philodendron pertusum Kunth &
> > Bouche; (???) and Tornelia fragrans Guttierez. To
> > me it would be an interesting exercise to attempt to
> > determine the ''why'' concerning these
> great
> > taxonomists describing another specimen of such a
> > VERY distinctive plant as a new species. If
> > we could view the specimens involved, we just might
> > learn that some of them, especially those of Koch,
> > that of Matuda and Guttierez`s, might be the smaller
> > dwarf forms which to them might have seemed to be
> > distinct.
> > I see where "Philodendron'' pertusa
> Kunth & Bouche
> > is mentioned, we now know (thanks to Pete) this this
> > is an Asain Raphiodophora sp. which in fact does
> > resemble Monstera deliciosa.
> > Ah, so much to ponder and learn, and so little time!
> > Aloha.
> >
> > Good Growing,
> >
> > Julius
> >
> > >>Dear Jason,
> >
> > Aloha.
> > I took a quick look at the cover of the first
> > Aroidiana online and did not see Monstera
> > deliciosa...so perhaps the caption is correct...but
> > I am not familiar with Monstera acuminata, so unless
> > I can check the description and herbarium sheet of a
> > vouchered specimen..I could not verify this species.
> > I would trust Michael Madison...Monstera acuminata
> > K.Koch is an accepted name according to Kew.
> > Monstera acuminata is very beautiful as I look at
> > the photo. I'll check if we grow it here in Hawaii
> > somewhere. The table of contents mentions an aroid
> > profile of Monstera deliciosa, so perhaps this is
> > where that memory popped in. I do not believe there
> > is chaos in this case.
> > Aloha,
> > Leland<<
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, mossytrail
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: mossytrail
> > > > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Mosterar deliciosa
> > > > To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> > > > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 3:26 PM
> > > > >It
> > > > > dawned on me this morning I left out
> the part
> > about
> > > > > Monstera deliciosa having been the
> first plant
> > > > featured on
> > > > > a cover of Aroideana, so I've got a
> little
> > more
> > > > work to
> > > > > do!
> > > > >
> > > > So, is this yet another example of
> "Chaos in
> > Monstera
> > > > names"? According to the caption, that
> cover
> > features
> > > > "An
> > > > aroid laden tree in Chiapas, Mexico, with
> > Monstera
> > > > acuminata, Philodendron scandens, and
> > Philodendron
> > > > radiatum."
> > > >
> > > > Jason Hernandez
> > > > Naturalist-at-Large
> > > >
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