From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.06.03 at 08:49:58(17710)
Dear Steve,
Aloha. I found an email address for a pteridologist,
Robbin C. Moran, who works at NYBG...rmoran at nybg.org.
You may want to ask his opinion about Huperzia
nummularifolia or Lycopodium nummularifolium. I can
only say that when I read the keys on Huperzia and
Lycopodium, your plants are clustered, without a
horizontal rhizome...which would place them in
Huperzia. I am not an expert in this matter, but I am
following Ollgaard's revision....maybe Tropicos does
not.
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Aloha,
Leland
--- brian lee wrote:
> Dear Steve,
>
> Aloha.
>
> According to TROPICOS, the correct name is,
> Huperzia
> phlegmaria(L.) Rothm. but this is for the acuminate
> scaled plant in your photo. You also have a
> Huperzia
> nummularifolia ( I am less sure about the species
> spelling) in your photos, which are the rounded
> overlapping scaled, plant in your photos.
>
> Now, you are always quick to state that something is
> incorrect if it differs from TROPICOS. TROPICOS is
> only as current as the data input. Then there are
> the professional differences of opinion among
> botanists. From what I have read of the later
> pteridologists, many of them follow the revision of
> Lycopodiaceae of Ollgaard, 1987. In that treatment,
> the genus, Lycopodium has a horizontal rhizome. In
> the genus, Huperzia, this characteristic is absent
> and
> the stems originate in clusters from a common
> point...like both of your plants. There are fertile
> characters to key out, but, this one character is
> diagnostic...if you accept Ollgaard's revision.
> Like
> I always say, taxonomy and botany are processes.
> Authors express their opinion and peers review and
> accept or reject their findings.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Leland
> --- ExoticRainforest
> wrote:
>
> > According to TROPICOS the basionym is Huperzia
> > phlegmaria (L.) Rothm. and the other names are
> > synonyms. You can check it and if I read this
> > incorrectly I'll make a correction.
> >
> > http://www.tropicos.org/Name/26603438
> >
> > Steve
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Windy Aubrey
> > To: Discussion of aroids
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fw: Epiphytes. And I may
> be
> > nuts!
> >
> >
> > Hi Steve and Leland,
> >
> > This is Huperzia phlegmaria, not H.
> > nummularifolia.
> > H.nummularifolia has scales that are rounder,
> and
> > lay down a bit more that
> > H. phlegmaria. Kind of similar, but definitely
> a
> > different species.
> >
> > Windy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "brian lee"
> > To: "Discussion of aroids"
> >
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fw: Epiphytes. And I may
> be
> > nuts!
> >
> >
> > > Dear Steve,
> > >
> > > Aloha.
> > >
> > > From your small photo, your species looks like
> > > Huperzia nummilarifolia... This is looking at
> a
> > > sterile plant...but, it is a distinctive
> > species.
> > >
> > > Aloha,
> > >
> > > Leland
> > >
> > > --- ExoticRainforest
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks Windy. I'm already enjoying it more
> > than I
> > >> can say. And I had another kind soul tell me
> > today
> > >> Lycopodiums were club mosses so I've spent
> much
> > of
> > >> the day reading about club moss. I can't
> find
> > an
> > >> accurate scientific name for the intertwined
> > species
> > >> I have now posted a sharper image of on the
> > page.
> > >> If any of you have a good idea, please
> forward
> > it to
> > >> me!
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> Steve Lucas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well, Steve you don't have to die to go to
> > heaven,
> > >> because you are in heaven now! Absolutely
> > >> beautiful!!!!
> > >> Look forward to watching it grow, so please
> > keep
> > >> sharing images of the progress.
> > >> Windy
> > >>
> > >> PS: Lycopodium is a club moss.
> > >> >
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