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[Aroid-l] When is a rain forest not a rain forest?
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From: soukupvg at email.uc.edu (Victor Soukup) on 2008.05.02 at 14:58:50(17530)
Hi,
Not to start any arguments, but there is rain forest in North
America. It may not be tropical, but the maritime area of the Pacific
Northwest, from Washington thru coastal British Colombia to Alaska is a
"rain forest". I'm sure this note will make us all remember this fact and
the need to preserve this forest system which the lumber industry wants to
cut down. There is little of the diversity to be found in tropical rain
forests but the trees are indeed magnificent.
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VicAt 11:16 PM 5/1/2008 +0200, you wrote:
>Seve,
>
>You are right, in North America there are no rainforests, only deciduous
>subtropical forest, in Panama or Southern Mexico down throught Brazil and
>other Southamerican countries you can find evergreen tropical rainforest,
>the same in Asia, down to about 20 deg. of N latitude there are deciduous
>forests and where the monsoon climate begins there equally start the rain
>forest. And of course it also depends from the subclimate, when it's dry
>and cold of too hot, the rainforest od not occur at all (like Sahara in
>Africa), the rainforest are present only in the narrow area between the
>tropics, the equatorial Africa.
>Every continent except Europe (and Antarctica :) ) has it's own belt of
>tropical rainforest. It is always cut by the Ecuator, then there are
>deserts, priairies and similar dry bioms, and as we go longer there are
>deciudous leaf-bearing (?) forest gradually replaced by the coniferous
>evergreens taygah. Also rainforest do do not occur in high mountains even
>when the latitude could allow them to grow there.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: ExoticRainforest
>To: Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest
>Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:49 AM
>Subject: [Aroid-l] When is a rain forest not a rain forest?
>
>Well, now I'm terribly confused! A note published on the Aroid l last
>night from Leo Martin, director of the Cactus and Succulent Society of
>America indicates Epiphyllum species are not rain forest plants. But they
>live in rain forests. "Steve - They aren't rain forest plants. I've seen
>some of them in Mexico. There are indeed cacti that are rain forest
>plants but Epiphyllum in general aren't, with the possible exception of E.
>chrysocardium. They are denizens of tropical deciduous forest. In other
>words, 4 months of summer rain, 8 months of no rain (but with normal
>nighttime dew.) Most (not all) of Mexico has this climate regime. I
>haven't been to Central America but there's plenty of tropical deciduous
>forest there too."
>
>This dilemma appears to involve the definition of what is and isn't a rain
>forest. I've read many times in Dr. Croat's material these forests are
>known to have dry, moist and wet regions and I thought I understood
>that. But now it appears I am left to consider plants that live in the
>dry region not to be rain forest plants. I'm really confused and
>obviously have a lot more to learn. But, I am trying.
>
>I spent a good deal of the night working Mr. Martin's note into the page
>and am doing my best to not take a position. I am not an expert and will
>not try to defend a position just because I don't understand all the
>ramifications. But this one is rattling my mind!
>
>http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Epiphyllum%20phyllanthus%20subsp.%20phyllanthus%20pc.html
>
>Steve
>
>
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