[Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri -Melbourne

From: donbit121 at hotmail.com (Don Bittel) on 2007.12.14 at 13:43:47(16824) Jeremy, CORRECTION: Your pictures look like anth. fendleri, not wagnerianum. that's the problem of replying to emails late at night without checking the books first. Sorry for any confusion. Don Bittel +More From: donbit121 at hotmail.comTo: aroid-l at gizmoworks.comDate: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:51:03 -0500Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri -Melbourne Hi Jeremy, Your pictures look just like anth. wagnerianus, which seeds itself with purple berries having white bases. A nice veiny leaf. Do take a picture of the new leaf before it uncurls. True hookeri will have just one curl, one side wrapped around the other. All pachyneurium types will have two curls, with each side wrapped around itself, like a figure 8 in cross section. I find it too hard to remember if convolute or involute means 1 or 2 curls. So, if your plant has 2 curls, it is probably wagnerianus. Don Bittel Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:32:35 +1100From: drplantman at gmail.comTo: aroid-l at gizmoworks.comSubject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeriHi Steve and Listers, From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:52:25 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: sounds like we've got A. hookeri here at the Botanic Gardens Melbourne. I'v= e attached pics of two different individuals, and would love confirmation o= r denial by those in the know! And a quick, very large thank you to those '= in the know' who do post on this list - to have sound taxonomic, horticult= ural and often extremely amusing information poured straight into my inbox = is a privilege beyond measure. Many thanks,Jeremy PMelbourne, Australia On Dec 10, 2007 5:43 PM, Marek Argent wrote: Steve, When the species name comes from a surname ending with "r" there is always = one "i" - hookeri, bakeri, walkeri one "i" also when the name ends on "i" or "y" beccarii, karwinskyi. In other cases there are always 2 "i" - rehmannii, wallisii. And when te name ends on "a" like Matsuda, the species name is matsudae. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: ExoticRainforest To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri Thanks for the input. Shortly after I published that note Dr. Croat, Juliu= s and Joep Moonen all checked my text and gave additional input. After clo= se to 10 years of growing specimens I thought to be Anthurium hookeri, (or = Anthurium hookerii, as they seem to love to spell it) I am amazed I've neve= r discovered this discrepancy before. But, even more amazing, is all the i= nformation on the internet, and eBay, which continues to show and offer "An= thurium hookeri" with red berries and ruffled leaves. Steve Lucas ----- Original Message ----- From: Famille FERRY To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri Hello Steve, I know very well David Scherberich because he determined a lot of plants = for the botanical garden of Nancy. He is an excellent botanist!We have in c= ulture Anthurium hookeri and it has indeed white berries. Cordialy, Geneviève _________________________________________________________________ i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a= difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect= --_4327a6e0-6a65-400f-817e-7b1ba99f0b8d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy, CORRECTION: Your pictures look like anth. fe= ndleri, not wagnerianum. that's the problem of replying to emails late at n= ight without checking the books first. Sorry for any confusion. Don Bittel From: donbit121 at hotmail.com To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Date: Thu, 13 = Dec 2007 23:51:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri -Melbou= rne Hi Jeremy, Your pictures look just like anth. w= agnerianus, which seeds itself with purple berries having white bases. A ni= ce veiny leaf. Do take a picture of the new leaf before it uncurls. T= rue hookeri will have just one curl, one side wrapped around the other. All= pachyneurium types will have two curls, with each side wrapped around itse= lf, like a figure 8 in cross section. I find it too hard to remember = if convolute or involute means 1 or 2 curls. So, if your plant has 2 = curls, it is probably wagnerianus. Don Bittel Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:32:35 +1100 From: drplantman at gmail.com To: = aroid-l at gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri H= i Steve and Listers, From your descriptions (and not having done the= proper ID work myself!) it sounds like we've got A. hookeri here at the Bo= tanic Gardens Melbourne. I've attached pics of two different individuals, a= nd would love confirmation or denial by those in the know! And a qu= ick, very large thank you to those 'in the know' who do post on this list -= to have sound taxonomic, horticultural and often extremely amusing i= nformation poured straight into my inbox is a privilege beyond measure. > Many thanks, Jeremy P Melbourne, Australia On Dec 10, 2007 5:43 PM, Marek Argent < href="mailto:abri1973 at wp.pl">abri1973 at wp.pl> wrote: Steve, When the species name comes from a surname= ending with "r" there is always one "i" - hookeri, bakeri, walkeri on= e "i" also when the name ends on "i" or "y" becc= arii, karwinskyi. In other cases there are always 2 "i"= - rehmannii, wallisii. And when te name ends on "a" like Matsuda,= the species name is matsudae. Marek ----- Original Message ----- Fro= m: ExoticRainforest To: m href="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com">Discussion of aroids IV> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:= 39 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hookeri= Thanks for the input. Shortly after I publis= hed that note Dr. Croat, Julius and Joep Moonen all checked my te= xt and gave additional input. After close to 10 years of growing= specimens I thought to be Anthurium hookeri, (or Anthurium hookerii= , as they seem to love to spell it) I am amazed I've never discovered this = discrepancy before. But, even more amazing, is all the information on= the internet, and eBay, which continues to show and offer "Anthurium hooke= ri" with red berries and ruffled leaves. Steve Lucas ----- Original Message ----- Fro= m: >Famille FERRY To: m href="mailto:aroid-l at gizmoworks.com">Discussion of aroids Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 4:= 04 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Anthurium hoo= keri Hello Steve, I know very well David Scherberich because he det= ermined a lot of plants for the botanical garden of Nancy. He is= an excellent botanist! We have in culture Anthurium hookeri and it has = indeed white berries. Cordialy, Geneviève > QUOTE> i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about re= al people making a difference. Learn more = --_4327a6e0-6a65-400f-817e-7b1ba99f0b8d_--

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