RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron domesticum vs. Philodendron hastatum

From: "Harry Witmore" <harrywitmore at witmore.net> on 2007.02.21 at 16:16:27(15312) Thanks for the info Steve. Since there is no authentication process associated with posting on many sites large or not, it is up to each individual to make up his or her mind on what is valid out there and what is not. I have, in the past, posted on the site in question and I certainly am no expert. Most site like this are rife with misidentifications. Believe me I know since I like to collect Dischidias and there is little or no good info out there for them. I did take the opportunity to change my tag after reading the discussion and have noted the change on my site. Harry +More Witmore Cloud Jungle Epiphyteswww.cloudjungle.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic RainforestSent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:58 AMTo: Discussion of aroidsSubject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron domesticum vs. Philodendron hastatum If anyone has a documented photo of Philodendron domesticum G.S. Bunting I'd love to see the plant! And I'd love to know where this species originated. Some of you may recall our discussion last summer regarding "Philodendron glaucophyllum". Many were not excited to read Dr. Croat's explanation that name is fictitious and "made-up" name for Philodendron hastatum. I corresponded with both Dr. Croat and Dr. Gonçalves at length regarding this Brazilian species. During my search for information I began to run across quite a few internet notations claiming Philodendron hastatum was "formerly known as" Philodendron domesticum. Dr. Croat provided excellent reasoning why this is not possible. P. hastatum was identified 112 years before P. domesticum therefore, assuming these were the same plant, P. hastatum would the name of preference and P. domesticum would be the synonym. Still, many websites make a claim to the contrary. In my internet description of the species I included their claims, which I still believe to be in error. In doing so I listed the names of two websites that had made that claim. I did not attempt to claim they were bad websites, quite the contrary, I described one as "an excellent" website. That one was a large garden website and the other was a county extension agent. But I've also found the claim on the USDA website and quite a few others! Last week I received a letter from the garden website's attorney telling me to remove my claim they were in error or face legal action. So I removed their name. I didn't remove the facts provided by Dr. Croat that P. hastatum is the correct name. I'm not sure if that is all they wanted done so we'll see if I actually get sued for claiming P. hastatum is the real name! I cannot find much information on P. domesticum. The photos on the internet (which cannot be verified) appear to be a totally different species. If anyone has a verified photo of P. domesticum I'd love to see it! I won't make the mistake of ever saying a large corporation is in error scientifically again on my site! Apparently that particular site recently sold to a large magazine and it appears the new owner does not want to have their facts called into question. But I won't change the correct name facts which appear to be scientifically accurate either! The link to my page is attached. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20hastatum%20pc.html --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/694 - Release Date: 2/20/2007 1:44 PM _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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