Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron Help

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.01.09 at 04:07:24(15070) Thanks again Tom. Several of us have been having independent discussions regarding the species that were a part of this discussion. I believe I can say we all appeciate your help in understanding these species better. Steve +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Croat To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Philodendron Help Dear Steve and others: Yes, Monstera dubia definitely changes from its shingled, mottled juvenile forms to the preadult, solid green leaves and never reverts back. Monstera dubia is also charateristically very warty on the adult stems. Tom Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany Missouri Botanical Garden Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116 (314) 577-5163 Thomas.Croat@mobot.org Please send images to our FTP Server. ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic RainforestSent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:02 PMTo: Discussion of aroidsSubject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron Help Just traded brief emails with Dr. Croat. Hopefully we can get his input on these plants. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: RAYMOMATTLA@cs.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron Help But wouldnt M. dubia change to an all green color (w/o variegation) if it was in its in-between stage, as in in between juv. and adult? Ive grown "silver queen" up Greenhouse walls and it never seems to change much other than leaves getting a little larger. The pics Ive seen of M. dubia show it change from its shingling stage (with appressed, variegated leaves) to its adult forms fairly quickly with only a few of the "in-between stage" leaves. I can definately see how these can be confused though. Does anyone out there know what the juvenile form of M. siltepecana look like? I have 2 plants both labled M. siltepecana, both are very similar but one form is much lighter in variegation with almost light green markings instead of white. My Monstera dubia has almost rounded variegated leaves that are appressed. Very interesting conversation, at least for me. Harry is right, some of these Monsteras are hard to get names on, especially since alot of us dont have the room to grow them to mature size. Michael _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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