RE: [Aroid-l] RE: Soloution?-Hybrid Philo. on e-bay

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.07.21 at 23:17:47(13212) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:46 PM To : Discussion of aroids Subject : [Aroid-l] RE: Philodendron stenolobum x P. selloum (bipinnatifidum) Hello Friends, After ruminating for a while, recalling plants I`ve seen, their parentage, etc., I THINK I`m ready to put my foot in my mouth and go out on a limb in suggesting what the actual parentage of that hybrid Philo. on e-bay, said to be P. bipinnatifidum X P. williamsii (stenolobum) probably are---I see as sure as my head is bald, P. goeldii genes in that plant, and so--it probably has P. gouldii as one parent, and P. stenolobum as the other, deff. NOT P. bipinnatifidum. Eric, that P. 'soledad' probably is a cross of P. stenolobum X P. bipinnatifidum, exactly the same parentage as P. 'willoum' bred by Aroid Research and shown on another e-mail. Good Growing, Julius +More That photo of the P. stenolobum x P. bipinnatifidum (selloum) looks very similar to a Philodendron a few south FL nurseries have sold, Philodendron 'Soledad' Anyone familiar with this Philodendron? We have several growing here and they look very similar. They are hardier than P. stenolobum, almost as hardy as P. bipinnatifidum. Here is a photo of one here at Leu Gardens; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/detail?.dir£ee&.dnmž18.jpg Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org --- Philip Crabb wrote: Hi, What about these two pages from Aroidia Research? http://aroidiaresearch.org/willoum.htm http://aroidiaresearch.org/affanta.htm The plant for sale looks more like the 'P. x African Fantasy' than the 'P. x willoum,' which Aroidia Research says is the hybrid between P. stenolobum and P. selloum. Phil --- Denis Rotolante wrote: > GREG HAMBALI A PLANT BREEDER IN INDONESIA MADE THIS > HYBRID AND HE DID > SEND SOME OFF TO THE USA WITH A FRIEND TO SELL...HE > ALSO MADE ANOTHER > HYBRID WHICH WAS PHILO. WILLIAMSII X GOELDII. > HOWEVER, SINCE OUR RECENT > DISCUSSION OF WHAT IS AND ISN'T P. WILLIAMSII AND > WHAT IS P. STENOLOBUM, > I AM WILLING TO BET THAT THE PARENT OF BOTH HYBRIDS > IS P. STENOLOBUM. > > OF COURSE THE REST OF THE WORLD PROBABLY DOES NOT > REALLY CARE ABOUT THE > NAME GAME...THEY JUST WANT THE HYBRID OF THE PLANT > FORMERLY KNOWN TO > HORTICULTURE AS P. WILLAMSII CROSSED BY P. SELLOUM > (WHATEVER SPECIES > THAT IS). > > DENIS > SILVER KROME GARDENS > HOMESTEAD FLORIDA > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of > a san juan > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:19 AM > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Subject: [Aroid-l] Rare Meconostigma Philo gets bid > of $280 > > > This interesting hybrid has gotten a bid of more > than > $280! > > "EXTREMELY RARE HYBRID PHILODENDRON SELLOUM X > WILLIAMSII" > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemw01279041&category=2 > 5463&rd=1 > > I asked why "Indonesia" when there are no native > Philos in that land, and the guy says it's from some > great hybridizer over there... > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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