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Dracunculus and Dracunculus
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.09.02 at 23:54:37(21367)
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: "J. Agoston" <agoston.janos123 at gmail.com> on 2010.09.05 at 00:43:58(21385)
Marek,
Yes animals and plants can have same gereric names, like Pieris brassicae is a butterfly eating brassicas, but Pieris japonica is a plant from Ericaceae as i know.
Jan
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2010/9/2 Marek Argent
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: "Ertelt, Jonathan B" <jonathan.ertelt at Vanderbilt.Edu> on 2010.09.05 at 21:36:21(21398)
Marek,
Yes it is admissible apparently – I found this to be the case when a search for images in the genus Drymonia(Gesneriaceae) also started turning up numerous images of moths, genus – Drymonia.
I’ve come across other examples as well, but this is the only one coming to mind right now. Happy Labor Day.
Jonathan
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On 9/2/10 6:54 PM, "Marek Argent" wrote:
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: Zach DuFran <zdufran at wdtinc.com> on 2010.09.07 at 15:28:22(21411)
Another example is the genus Heliconia, which applies to
butterflies which feast on Passionflowers (Passiflora), and also applies to the
a tropical genus in the Zingerberales order, Heliconiaceae family. These are
the “False Bird of Paradise” or “Lobster claws” plants,
which have very colorful inflorescences.
The Heliconia butterfly genus is now being called
Heliconius, so that helps a little bit.
Zach
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Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010
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Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracunculus
and Dracunculus
Marek,
Yes animals and plants can have same gereric names, like Pieris brassicae is a
butterfly eating brassicas, but Pieris japonica is a plant from Ericaceae as i
know.
Jan
2010/9/2 Marek Argent
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that
made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus
vulgaris and Dracunculus
canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
target="_blank">http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to
bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: Johannes Moonen <emeraldjunglevillage at wanadoo.fr> on 2010.09.08 at 10:06:35(21418)
Dear Zach,
as you said Heliconius is a genus of beautifull butterflies that merely feed on certain species of Passiflora.
Heliconia is a SA genus of about 200 species of very nice terrestrial plants with beautifull flowers. Some species are grown allover the tropics because of their durable flowers and restistance agains insect appetire.
Cheers, Joep
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On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Zach DuFran wrote:
Another example is the genus Heliconia, which applies to butterflies which feast on Passionflowers (Passiflora), and also applies to the a tropical genus in the Zingerberales order, Heliconiaceae family. These are the “False Bird of Paradise” or “Lobster claws” plants, which have very colorful inflorescences.
The Heliconia butterfly genus is now being called Heliconius, so that helps a little bit.
Zach
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of J. Agoston
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:44 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracunculus and Dracunculus
Marek,
Yes animals and plants can have same gereric names, like Pieris brassicae is a butterfly eating brassicas, but Pieris japonica is a plant from Ericaceae as i know.
Jan
2010/9/2 Marek Argent
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.09.08 at 23:37:06(21424)
Indeed, there are more examples:
There are birds and plants Prunella and Oenanthe,
not so funny.
Marek
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From: Zach DuFran
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracunculus and Dracunculus
Another example is the genus Heliconia, which applies to butterflies which feast on Passionflowers (Passiflora), and also applies to the a tropical genus in the Zingerberales order, Heliconiaceae family. These are the “False Bird of Paradise” or “Lobster claws” plants, which have very colorful inflorescences.
The Heliconia butterfly genus is now being called Heliconius, so that helps a little bit.
Zach
From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of J. Agoston
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:44 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Dracunculus and Dracunculus
Marek,
Yes animals and plants can have same gereric names, like Pieris brassicae is a butterfly eating brassicas, but Pieris japonica is a plant from Ericaceae as i know.
Jan
2010/9/2 Marek Argent
Hello,
While searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides Dracunculus vulgaris and Dracunculus canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are... Nematodes:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic name?
???
Marek
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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2010.09.11 at 04:27:43(21440)
Yes, provided that are not in the same kingdom. So, you can have
animals and plants and fungi sharing the name. Araceae has an example Hapale (a
syn of Hapaline) and also a genus of marmoset.
P.
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[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent
Sent: Friday, 3 September, 2010 7:55 AM
To: discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Dracunculus and Dracunculus
Hello,
While
searching the web for documents I found something that made me scared.
Besides
Dracunculus vulgaris
and Dracunculus
canariense, which we almost all heard about,
I
found a document mentioning different species of Dracunculus which are...
Nematodes:
href="http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf">http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/2147.pdf
Is
it admissible for two quite different unrelated taxa to bear the same generic
name?
???
Marek
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From: Ferenc Lengyel <feri.lengyel at gmail.com> on 2010.09.11 at 20:38:21(21444)
An interesting example: Pterolepis. It is 1. a prehistoric ostracoderm fish genus, 2. a genus in the katydid family Tettigoniidae and 3. a plant genus in the family Melastomataceae.
Ferenc
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