Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy

From: Christopher Rogers <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2010.06.17 at 23:25:09(21124) Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher HTML +More -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: "Andrew Schrimsher" <bigdopey.whiteboy at verizon.net> on 2010.06.18 at 04:35:16(21127) California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On HTML +More Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: michael kolaczewski <mjkolaffhbc at sbcglobal.net> on 2010.06.18 at 04:37:23(21128) Greetings Christopher, I can only speak about moving and storing Arisaema. I am assuming the you are going to transport these by land. I have done this many times in containers, moving the plant in leaf, moving them from one garden or location to another. If it is early enough in the season, I plant directly into the ground, at their new location. Otherwise, just leave the plants in the pots, for the remainder of the season, and the following spring, examine the tubers for signs of life, cleaning away any soft or dead tissue,and replant them before they break for the season. I have on occasion, ( several times actually ) brought plants home, put them into the garage, or behind some shrubs to keep them out of the sun, and of course forgot about them. Only to find them weeks later or in the fall, after cleaning up the garden before winter. After examining them, the tubers appeared ok, and indeed the following spring, they broke, smaller, but still alive. hope this post was useful. Michael HTML +More Oh one more item - I use Wiltpruf® when moving grasses or other plants, when they are actively growing, to reduce transplant shock. I have never tried this with Arisaema, just a final thought... --0-1086131393-1276835843=:34013-- --==============F58213997051789081=

From: Christopher Rogers <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2010.06.18 at 15:20:10(21129) Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher HTML +More On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Christopher Rogers <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2010.06.18 at 15:22:09(21130) Thanks! On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM, michael kolaczewski wrote: Greetings Christopher, HTML +More I can only speak about moving and storing Arisaema. I am assuming the you are going to transport these by land. I have done this many times in containers, moving the plant in leaf, moving them from one garden or location to another. If it is early enough in the season, I plant directly into the ground, at their new location. Otherwise, just leave the plants in the pots, for the remainder of the season, and the following spring, examine the tubers for signs of life, cleaning away any soft or dead tissue,and replant them before they break for the season. I have on occasion, ( several times actually ) brought plants home, put them into the garage, or behind some shrubs to keep them out of the sun, and of course forgot about them. Only to find them weeks later or in the fall, after cleaning up the garden before winter. After examining them, the tubers appeared ok, and indeed the following spring, they broke, smaller, but still alive. hope this post was useful. Michael Oh one more item - I use Wiltpruf® when moving grasses or other plants, when they are actively growing, to reduce transplant shock. I have never tried this with Arisaema, just a final thought... _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: "Andrew Schrimsher" <bigdopey.whiteboy at verizon.net> on 2010.06.19 at 06:07:53(21132) I could be a City Poet.....'there once was a man from Nantucket......"....I lived in 'you can't get there from here' Montana for a number of years, so I have a great appreciation for the outdoors and a simpler existence.....drove across Kansas on our nearly 5000 mile honeymoon adventure a few years ago......hope the move goes well and the new location suits you ...... HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher href="mailto:bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net" target="_blank"bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net/a> wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: href="mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com" target="_blank">aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher clear=all> -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2010.06.19 at 17:06:52(21133) Christopher, surely no city can get by without a full-time poet! Let's get this nice fellow started: There once was a Poet from Davis who married a turtle named Mavis There weren't any cops but the poetry was tops! Only WE from government stupidity can save us! I'm not applying for the position HTML +More Christopher Rogers wrote: Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher --------------000607060801080806000600-- --==============V20922284675316003=

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2010.06.21 at 04:04:03(21134) Christopher: Kansas is a wonderful state. I lived in Lawrence while I was getting my Ph.D. It is a lovely town and close to Kansas City if you get bored with gentle living. Lots of people are leaving California owing to the high taxes. Since it is now bankrupt it will only get worse. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:20 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher href="mailto:bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net" target="_blank"bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net/a> wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: href="mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com" target="_blank">aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher clear=all> -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Christopher Rogers <CRogers at ecoanalysts.com> on 2010.06.22 at 16:49:19(21135) Thanks, my friend! D. Christopher Rogers HTML +More EcoAnalysts, Inc. branchiopod@gmail.com 1.530.383.4798 PO Box 4098 Davis, CA 95616 ((,///////////=======< From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Schrimsher [bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net] Sent: 18 June 2010 23:07 To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy I could be a City Poet.....'there once was a man from Nantucket......"....I lived in 'you can't get there from here' Montana for a number of years, so I have a great appreciation for the outdoors and a simpler existence.....drove across Kansas on our nearly 5000 mile honeymoon adventure a few years ago......hope the move goes well and the new location suits you ...... From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Christopher Rogers <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2010.06.22 at 17:02:46(21136) Okay, the gauntlet has been thrown. How about this: For a poem you work all of the time, To find just the perfectest line, To get the right verse, For each word you’ve nursed, And come up with a really good sounding poem . . . Grins, Christopher HTML +More On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Ken Mosher wrote: Christopher, surely no city can get by without a full-time poet! Let's get this nice fellow started: There once was a Poet from Davis who married a turtle named Mavis There weren't any cops but the poetry was tops! Only WE from government stupidity can save us! I'm not applying for the position Christopher Rogers wrote: Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Don Bittel <donbit121 at hotmail.com> on 2010.06.24 at 02:20:27(21140) Christopher,            I agree with Tom, having lived my first 21 years in Kansas. I may have to retire there myself since my beloved Florida is getting so expensive. My mother-in law's house, a 3/2 in a medium size town, just sold for $56,000. and my dad's house, a 2/1 with large garage is for sale now for $18,000 if you're interested!  You can't even buy a Honda for that price. Good luck, and let us know where you settle. Don Bittel HTML +More Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:04:03 -0500 From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Christopher:  Kansas is a wonderful state. I lived in Lawrence while I was getting my Ph.D. It is a lovely town and close to Kansas City if you get bored with gentle living.  Lots of people are leaving California owing to the high taxes.  Since it is now bankrupt it will only get worse.   Tom   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:20 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy   Hiyer, Andrew!   Good to hear from you.   Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet.   Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs.   My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence.   Happy days, Christopher   On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher <bigdopey.whiteboy@verizon.net> wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?....   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy   Hiyer!   I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers?   Thanks in advance, Christopher -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======< 530.383.4798 Crustacean Taxonomist and Ecologist Assistant Editor, Journal of Crustacean Biology Vice President, Southwest Association of Freshwater Invertebrate Taxonomists _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======< 530.383.4798 Crustacean Taxonomist and Ecologist Assistant Editor, Journal of Crustacean Biology Vice President, Southwest Association of Freshwater Invertebrate Taxonomists Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more. --_2deac23e-e93b-456e-a0bb-d95c5b5454e3_-- --==============90669703038907365=

From: Christopher Rogers <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2010.06.24 at 16:35:22(21141) Dear all, I have received lots of email on and off list about my move. You are all very kind and I appreciate your support. I promise to stay involved in Aroid-L and IAS, and I promise to let anyone know where I am if they need my address. I will be incommunicado (which I am told is just a noncommunicating avocado) for the next few weeks as I make my eastward journey, but I will be back. I promise! I just want to add that you guys are all really great! I really appreciate all the kindness and generosity this wonderful group has bestowed upon me over the years. The amount of brain power and experience in this group is truly awesome, and I have learned much. Happy days! Christopher HTML +More On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Don Bittel wrote: Christopher, I agree with Tom, having lived my first 21 years in Kansas. I may have to retire there myself since my beloved Florida is getting so expensive. My mother-in law's house, a 3/2 in a medium size town, just sold for $56,000. and my dad's house, a 2/1 with large garage is for sale now for $18,000 if you're interested! You can't even buy a Honda for that price. Good luck, and let us know where you settle. Don Bittel Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:04:03 -0500 From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Christopher: Kansas is a wonderful state. I lived in Lawrence while I was getting my Ph.D. It is a lovely town and close to Kansas City if you get bored with gentle living. Lots of people are leaving California owing to the high taxes. Since it is now bankrupt it will only get worse. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:20 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer, Andrew! Good to hear from you. Absolutely!! My wife and I have wanted to leave CA for nearly twenty years. I love the natural history and the restaurants. We hate the crowds, the high taxes, the blatant stupidity. I will give you an example: I live in the City of Davis. Due to the poor economy, Davis has cut several law enforcement programs, and not hired several police officers that were supposed to be added to the force. However, Davis has decided that it needs to fill a newly created position, a position that is full time, with full benefits. That position is City Poet. Another example: the governor announced back in January that the state was broke, and pleaded with the legislature to cut spending. On camera the legislature agreed. Over the next months, the legislature then passed millions of dollars worth of brand new mandatory programs. My wife and I grew up in the country, and we want to get back to that far less complicated existence. Happy days, Christopher On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Andrew Schrimsher wrote: California to Kansas?...on purpose?.... From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Rogers Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:25 PM To: Aroid-L Subject: [Aroid-l] Temperate Tuberous Species Dormancy Hiyer! I have some Pinellia, Arisaema and Arisarum that I need to go dormant because I am moving. In fact I am moving from California to Kansas. If I withold water, will they go dormant and break dormancy again next spring or will they die? The Pinellia and Arisarum have been up now for about four months, and the Arisaema for about two months. Have they had time to replentish their tubers? Thanks in advance, Christopher -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

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