ultrasonic rodent repellers

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2009.10.12 at 21:39:26(20179) Maybe not terribly OT since none of us would like rodentia chewing on our tubers and plants... I just did a few thousand dollars of renovations on my headhouse this summer. Previously the walls and ceiling were infested with mice, etc making a mess and a stink. Over the summer I gutted the entire thing and blocked what I'll optimistically call all of the rodent-entry places, then re-insulated and put put up new walls and ceiling. Naturally, there may be an entry point that I missed or they may create a new one. I must keep them out of the walls and ceiling! Has anyone ever used the ultrasonic rodent repellers with objective evidence that they worked? I placed one inside the headhouse to try to deter them from coming in there at all. I also placed one in the small shed that's built onto the back of the headhouse where there *used to be* several entry points for them (hoping they'll stay out of there and not chew new holes). Thanks, Ken +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.10.15 at 20:55:29(20183) Hello, Have you heard about so perfect beings as Cats? :) I plant my most valuable tubers in plastic pots that are used for aquatic culture, with holes in all the surface. The roots will go through them into the soil, but no larger animals than rainworms. They also prevent some invasive plants from spreading. Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mosher" To: "Aroid list" Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] OT: ultrasonic rodent repellers > Maybe not terribly OT since none of us would like rodentia chewing on > our tubers and plants... I just did a few thousand dollars of > renovations on my headhouse this summer. Previously the walls and > ceiling were infested with mice, etc making a mess and a stink. Over > the summer I gutted the entire thing and blocked what I'll > optimistically call all of the rodent-entry places, then re-insulated > and put put up new walls and ceiling. > > Naturally, there may be an entry point that I missed or they may create > a new one. I must keep them out of the walls and ceiling! > > Has anyone ever used the ultrasonic rodent repellers with objective > evidence that they worked? > > I placed one inside the headhouse to try to deter them from coming in > there at all. I also placed one in the small shed that's built onto the > back of the headhouse where there *used to be* several entry points for > them (hoping they'll stay out of there and not chew new holes). > > Thanks, > Ken > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.421 / Baza danych wirusow: 270.14.16/2435 - Data wydania: 10/14/09 06:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CA4DEA.97636500 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CA4DEA.97636500--

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2009.10.16 at 22:35:46(20186) Hi Marek, Yes, I have a cat; she's very sweet but not much of a hunter, unfortunately. My problem is not that the mice eat my tubers. My problem is that they had gotten into the walls and ceiling of my headhouse and made a stinking mess. I need to prevent them from doing that again. +More -Ken Marek Argent wrote: > Hello, > > Have you heard about so perfect beings as Cats? :) > > I plant my most valuable tubers in plastic pots that are used for > aquatic culture, > with holes in all the surface. The roots will go through them into the > soil, > but no larger animals than rainworms. > They also prevent some invasive plants from spreading. > > Marek > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mosher" > To: "Aroid list" > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:39 PM > Subject: [Aroid-l] OT: ultrasonic rodent repellers > > >> Maybe not terribly OT since none of us would like rodentia chewing on >> our tubers and plants... I just did a few thousand dollars of >> renovations on my headhouse this summer. Previously the walls and >> ceiling were infested with mice, etc making a mess and a stink. Over >> the summer I gutted the entire thing and blocked what I'll >> optimistically call all of the rodent-entry places, then re-insulated >> and put put up new walls and ceiling. >> >> Naturally, there may be an entry point that I missed or they may create >> a new one. I must keep them out of the walls and ceiling! >> >> Has anyone ever used the ultrasonic rodent repellers with objective >> evidence that they worked? >> >> I placed one inside the headhouse to try to deter them from coming in >> there at all. I also placed one in the small shed that's built onto the >> back of the headhouse where there *used to be* several entry points for >> them (hoping they'll stay out of there and not chew new holes). >> >> Thanks, >> Ken _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2009.10.18 at 17:07:20(20189) The owner of our feed store claims they work perfectly, keeping out the rats and mice from all of the grains...his daughter waits for him to leave the room and says if it wasn't for the various cats that have learned how to get into the storage barn, they'd be eaten out of house and home by vermin. Dad bought one on the guys suggestion and placed it in our other half of basement...doesn't do a dang thing as chipmunks and mice are always seen running around ...even right past the dang repeller. kyle from maine HTML +More --0-2002389774-1255885640=:10164----==============„83472765835158067=

From: michael kolaczewski <mjkolaffhbc at sbcglobal.net> on 2009.10.19 at 04:07:49(20192) Greetings Ken, and other forum members, In addition to gardening and propagating plants for many years, I was at one time involved in structural pest control. These devices really do not provide any pest deterrence. Mice, as many of you know, are problem pests in greenhouses, homes, and other structures. If you can slide a #2 pencil under a gap or a door, or even under a baseboard, they can get in. In the matter of mouse biology, in particular, the house mouse, the males also contaminate many things with their urine, by their marking activity. The urine also contains pheromones, Which they use to attract females and to deter rivals, from entering their territory. So obviously, once a number of individuals begin to enter into a structure, and take up residence, you can have quite an infestation. You can use a rodent bait or glue boards, which some people find unpleasant, as control methods. There are also the so called, catch all traps, metal devices which capture the mice. If there are only a few rodents, the traditional little snap trap works well. Once again I realize some people will find this unpleasant. These items should used along the perimeter of the walls and where they will not be contacted by children and pets. Another step, is to secure all cracks, crevices, and gaps around the structure. Using Silicone chalk will help a great deal. You can also use steel wool in the gaps. If use the wool and the chalk together, be sure that you have a "smooth" seal. Don't let the wool protrude out of the chalk. In some cases, using a strip of metal over a gap or door bottom, or even around structure base / foundation, will provide another level of deterrence. I have lost various bulbs, and many, many flats of seedlings and plants to pests. I do whatever is needed to get rid of them. Sorry for the long posting, I hope this information will be of use to you all. Best regards, Michael Kolaczewski HTML +More --0-5162502-1255925269=:30254----==============15731371342723013=

From: "Weaver, Bill" <bill.weaver at hp.com> on 2009.10.19 at 19:27:02(20194) The tricky part is that it might work initially, but the critters get used to it and ignore it after a while much the same way as a plastic owl loses its effectiveness after the birds get used to it. Or to put it another way, the traffic noise you thought you'd never sleep through becomes part of the background after a while. From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Baker Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:07 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] OT: ultrasonic rodent repellers The owner of our feed store claims they work perfectly, keeping out the rats and mice from all of the grains...his daughter waits for him to leave the room and says if it wasn't for the various cats that have learned how to get into the storage barn, they'd be eaten out of house and home by vermin. Dad bought one on the guys suggestion and placed it in our other half of basement...doesn't do a dang thing as chipmunks and mice are always seen running around ...even right past the dang repeller. kyle from maine HTML +More --_000_28113A0489833849A1CF9EC16F42154359D668DA25GVW1097EXBame_----==============37837635728704292=

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2009.10.22 at 06:30:30(20199) Hi Michael, Thanks for your answer. It was thorough, not too long. I have a bit of experience mouse-proofing and I'm well aware of the very small openings they can squeeze through. I was extremely thorough with sealing up the openings during the renovation. I used many methods: 1/4" hardware cloth, installing new wood, blocking with new wood, "Great Stuff" foam in combo with the other solutions. We also made it so that even if the mice access one area of the ceiling they can't get past the rafters to other sections. There used to be unused wiring holes for them to crawl through. +More The worry is, of course, did I miss an opening? Will they find a weakness where they can easily chew a new one? My desire was/is to use the electronic repellers to drive them away before they've had time to explore their options! It don't mind baits and traps. Dead mice don't bother me; it's the live ones that bother me! In fact, I've found that gluing the all-weather baits to a piece of wood is the best idea, otherwise they will tend to drag them away to where the baits may be less effective and I can't monitor their consumption. I'll keep the two repellers (inside the headhouse and in the little shed behind it) in place. I may not even know if they're effective or not unless damage becomes evident by spring or summer. But I have a "control group" that's easier to monitor. There's a second shed, about 10' x 12' whose indoor eaves were home to gray and/or red squirrels last winter. I put another repeller in there along with weatherproof baits. I can monitor those baits and I will see if the rodentia build their winter nests in the eaves again. Last winter during a heavy feeding week the varmints would consume three baits in two or three days. I guess I'm lucky to have electricity in all of my outbuildings. As the season progresses I'll let the group know the results. Since I bought the repellers are Lowe's I guess I have 90 days to return them if they don't work. I'll know by then if they're effective in the shed. -Ken michael kolaczewski wrote: > Greetings Ken, and other forum members, > In addition to gardening and propagating plants for many years, I was > at one time > involved in structural pest control. These devices really do not > provide any pest > deterrence. Mice, as many of you know, are problem pests in > greenhouses, homes, and other > structures. If you can slide a #2 pencil under a gap or a door, or > even under a baseboard, they can get in. > In the matter of mouse biology, in particular, the house mouse, the > males also contaminate > many things with their urine, by their marking activity. The urine > also contains pheromones, > Which they use to attract females and to deter rivals, from entering > their territory. > So obviously, once a number of individuals begin to enter into a > structure, and take up residence, > you can have quite an infestation. > You can use a rodent bait or glue boards, which some people find > unpleasant, as control > methods. There are also the so called, catch all traps, metal devices > which capture the mice. > If there are only a few rodents, the traditional little snap trap > works well. Once again I realize some people > will find this unpleasant. > These items should used along the perimeter of the walls and where > they will not be contacted by children and pets. > Another step, is to secure all cracks, crevices, and gaps around the > structure. Using Silicone > chalk will help a great deal. You can also use steel wool in the gaps. > If use the wool and the chalk together, > be sure that you have a "smooth" seal. Don't let the wool protrude out > of the chalk. > In some cases, using a strip of metal over a gap or door bottom, or > even around structure base / > foundation, will provide another level of deterrence. > I have lost various bulbs, and many, many flats of seedlings and > plants to pests. > I do whatever is needed to get rid of them. > Sorry for the long posting, I hope this information will be of use to > you all. > Best regards, > Michael Kolaczewski _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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