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great Photos from Joep Moonen!
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From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.01.25 at 22:11:55(18974)
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all werephotographed in French Guiana although he says they not nativespecies. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone adda name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
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From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <desinadora at mail2designer.com> on 2009.01.26 at 13:02:19(18986)
Heck no, that second Anthurium isn't native to French Guiana! That's a common Ecuadorean midland species. No idea on the name, but at least you have a country of origin.
The palmate one I think I saw near Cali in Colombia; if I ever go back, I'll be able to tell you for sure.
Beth
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From: brian lee <lbmkjm at yahoo.com> on 2009.01.26 at 17:08:17(18987)
Dear Steve,
Aloha.
I started seeing Anthurium similar to your first photo in Minas Gerais, Bra zil, many years ago. I suspected then that these were hybrids. I have sin ce seen other such plants in collections under various names that are not o fficially recognized. I grow something very similar to the plant illustrat ed, but I do not assign it any name. Mine has the velvety black black-gree n blades of several species...ie. Anthurium magnificum, etc. The lateral l obes are present, but I do not know where this characteristic comes from. Perhaps someone with hybridizing experience can enlighten the forum on this.
Now. There is an Anthurium being sold out there called Anthurium chamberla inii...another unofficial name, if I am not mistaken. It is quite a beauty with deep red new growth and a tulip form inflorescence. I suspect this i s a hybrid...but, someone with more hybridization experience should comment . This comment is a tangent on the subject, not an identification on the s econd photo.
Aloha,
Leland
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From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.01.27 at 02:44:37(18993)
Hi Steve,
I believe the species you are showing from Joep's collection is the Mexican species A. pedatoradiatum.
At least it looks like ones I imported from Chiapas last year.
There is also a hybrid of this species crossed with A. clarinervium, another Mexican species, and although it has the same palmately lobed appearing leaf as the Pedatoradium parent, it also exhibits the white veining of the Clarinervium parent, thus making it an extremely attractive plant.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
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Subject: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all were photographed in French Guiana although he says they not native species. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone add a name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
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From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.01.31 at 05:00:59(19005)
Thanks Windy. I'll pass that alongto Joep.
Steve
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Windy Aubrey wrote:
Hi Steve,
I believe the species you areshowing from Joep's collection is the Mexican species A.pedatoradiatum.
At least it looks like ones Iimported from Chiapas last year.
There is also a hybrid of thisspecies crossed with A. clarinervium, another Mexican species, andalthough it has the same palmately lobed appearing leaf as thePedatoradium parent, it also exhibits the white veining of theClarinervium parent, thus making it an extremely attractive plant.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent:Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject:[Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all werephotographed in French Guiana although he says they not nativespecies. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone add a name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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From: "Windy Aubrey" <exotics at hawaii.rr.com> on 2009.01.31 at 23:22:39(19014)
Steve,
I stand corrected.
I believe Dr. Tom is correct that this plant in question is a form of A. macrolobum, the hybrid I mentioned in my reply to what the image from Joep might be.
I re-examined my A. pedatoradium and they are a little different, being thinner lobed.
The A. macrolobum (A. pedatoradium X A. clarinervium) I saw before had more of the parent A. clarinervium's white veining, so for that reason I was thrown off, but the leaf shape was identical to the plant shown in the image you showed.
I will post a picture of the A. pedatoradium I received from Chiapas. They are just started to grow out.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Thanks Windy. I'll pass that along to Joep.
Steve
Windy Aubrey wrote:
Hi Steve,
I believe the species you are showing from Joep's collection is the Mexican species A. pedatoradiatum.
At least it looks like ones I imported from Chiapas last year.
There is also a hybrid of this species crossed with A. clarinervium, another Mexican species, and although it has the same palmately lobed appearing leaf as the Pedatoradium parent, it also exhibits the white veining of the Clarinervium parent, thus making it an extremely attractive plant.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all were photographed in French Guiana although he says they not native species. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone add a name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.02.01 at 15:36:20(19017)
Dear Windy and Steve
So... if A. macrolobum is a hybrid (and its parents are known) shouldn't the correct name be A. × macrolobum?
Marek
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From: Windy Aubrey
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Steve,
I stand corrected.
I believe Dr. Tom is correct that this plant in question is a form of A. macrolobum, the hybrid I mentioned in my reply to what the image from Joep might be.
I re-examined my A. pedatoradium and they are a little different, being thinner lobed.
The A. macrolobum (A. pedatoradium X A. clarinervium) I saw before had more of the parent A. clarinervium's white veining, so for that reason I was thrown off, but the leaf shape was identical to the plant shown in the image you showed.
I will post a picture of the A. pedatoradium I received from Chiapas. They are just started to grow out.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Thanks Windy. I'll pass that along to Joep.
Steve
Windy Aubrey wrote:
Hi Steve,
I believe the species you are showing from Joep's collection is the Mexican species A. pedatoradiatum.
At least it looks like ones I imported from Chiapas last year.
There is also a hybrid of this species crossed with A. clarinervium, another Mexican species, and although it has the same palmately lobed appearing leaf as the Pedatoradium parent, it also exhibits the white veining of the Clarinervium parent, thus making it an extremely attractive plant.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all were photographed in French Guiana although he says they not native species. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone add a name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.02.01 at 20:23:16(19024)
Sounds right to me Marek! Derek,are you out there???
Steve
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Marek Argent wrote:
Dear Windy and Steve
So... if A. macrolobum is a hybrid(and its parents are known) shouldn't the correct name be A. ×macrolobum?
Marek
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From: Windy Aubrey
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent:Sunday, February 01, 2009 12:22 AM
Subject:Re: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Steve,
I stand corrected.
I believe Dr. Tom is correctthat this plant in question is a form of A. macrolobum, the hybrid Imentioned in my reply to what the image from Joep might be.
I re-examined my A. pedatoradiumand they are a little different, being thinner lobed.
The A. macrolobum (A. pedatoradiumX A. clarinervium) I saw before had more of the parent A.clarinervium's white veining, so for that reason I was thrown off, butthe leaf shape was identical to the plant shown in the image you showed.
I will post a picture of the A.pedatoradium I received from Chiapas. They are just started to growout.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent:Friday, January 30, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject:Re: [Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Thanks Windy. I'll pass thatalong to Joep.
Steve
Windy Aubrey wrote:
Hi Steve,
I believe the species you areshowing from Joep's collection is the Mexican species A.pedatoradiatum.
At least it looks like ones Iimported from Chiapas last year.
There is also a hybrid of thisspecies crossed with A. clarinervium, another Mexican species, andalthough it has the same palmately lobed appearing leaf as thePedatoradium parent, it also exhibits the white veining of theClarinervium parent, thus making it an extremely attractive plant.
Windy
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From: ExoticRainforest
To: Discussionof aroids
Sent:Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject:[Aroid-l] great Photos from Joep Moonen!
Joep Moonen sent these to me earlier today and all werephotographed in French Guiana although he says they not nativespecies. These are not identified and both of us would like an ID. Can anyone add a name to them?
Thanks!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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