I.D.`ing the Anthurium from Jared

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2009.01.04 at 12:51:57(18854) Dear All, Please DON`T take my suggestion a ''final'' solution.   I usually try to stay out of these discussions on I.D.`ing store-bought plants, but this one is interesting now that I have seen a photo.  It is not a ''birds nest" type, and is NOT in my opinion a pure species.  The up-turned posterior lobes of the leaves which create the impression of a ''cup"" are NOT like A. fausto., which has a HUGE, almost flat cordate leaf, VERY 'hard-textured'.  Steve will have photos on his site of a pure A. faustomir.  I`d like to see a photo of an inflorescence on this (Jared`s) plant, as the bloom on a pure A. fausto. is large, and has a cup-shaped large spathe which spreads over the spadix like a roof, and a very short peduncle/stem.   Jared`s plant might exibit a different spathe/peduncle which may offer hints as to the plant`s possibly mixed parentage. Julius HTML +More Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:41:04 -0700 From: jaredr.mckinley@gmail.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] (no subject) >>This is the photo sent to me when I purchased the plant. I could take another and send it, but I won't have a chance until Monday or Tuesday. The leaves are NOT glossy. They quickly turn coriaceous, it is fairly large (I assume a bird's nest Anth.). I will record more specific specs when I have the plant in front of me. This is turning out to be quite the challenge to ID. jared -- ((Expecto Patronum)) Jared R. McKinley Horticulturist/Botanist Mercury Ventures 6700 S. X9 Ranch Rd Vail, AZ 85641-6202 Cell: (520) 730-8583 --_95401a27-775f-4cf3-a765-e92b9de82a08_----==============91719410951068084=

From: ExoticRainforest <Steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2009.01.05 at 01:40:51(18861) Jared, I've been studying a highlymagnified copy of the the photo you posted of "whitelockii" and itappears there may be pubescence (hair) on the petioles. In a fewspecimens the petioles appear terete (round) but in others some appearto be canaliculate (C shaped). Can you verify this? And if possible,closeup photos of the upper and lower surfaces of the blade as well asthe roots and petioles would be of interest. Thanks! Steve Lucas HTML +More www.ExoticRainforest.com ju-bo@msn.com wrote: Dear All, Please DON`T take my suggestion a ''final'' solution. I usually tryto stay out of these discussions on I.D.`ing store-bought plants, butthis one is interesting now that I have seen a photo. It is not a''birds nest" type, and is NOT in my opinion a pure species. Theup-turned posterior lobes of the leaves which create the impression ofa ''cup"" are NOT like A. fausto., which has a HUGE, almost flatcordate leaf, VERY 'hard-textured'. Steve will have photos on his siteof a pure A. faustomir. I`d like to see a photo of an inflorescence on this (Jared`s) plant, asthe bloom on a pure A. fausto. is large, and has a cup-shaped largespathe which spreads over the spadix like a roof, and a very shortpeduncle/stem. Jared`s plant might exibit a different spathe/pedunclewhich may offer hints as to the plant`s possibly mixed parentage. Julius Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:41:04 -0700 From: jaredr.mckinley@gmail.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] (no subject) >>This is the photo sent to me when I purchased the plant. Icould take another and send it, but I won't have a chance until Mondayor Tuesday. The leaves are NOT glossy. They quickly turn coriaceous, it is fairlylarge (I assume a bird's nest Anth.). I will record more specific specs when I have the plant in front of me.This is turning out to be quite the challenge to ID. jared -- ((Expecto Patronum)) Jared R. McKinley Horticulturist/Botanist Mercury Ventures 6700 S. X9 Ranch Rd Vail, AZ 85641-6202 Cell: (520) 730-8583 _______________________________________________Aroid-L mailing listAroid-L@www.gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --------------050407040803040905070805

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2009.01.05 at 16:16:22(18865) Dear All: I actually never saw Jared’simage. I only know that what I was once calling Anthurium whitelockii turnedout to be Anth. faustomirandae. Could someone send me this image that Jaredoriginally posted? Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] OnBehalf Of ExoticRainforest Sent: Sunday, January 04, 20097:41 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] I.D.`ingthe Anthurium from Jared Jared, I've been studying a highly magnified copy ofthe the photo you posted of "whitelockii" and it appears there may bepubescence (hair) on the petioles. In a few specimens the petioles appearterete (round) but in others some appear to be canaliculate (C shaped). Can you verify this? And if possible, closeup photos of the upper andlower surfaces of the blade as well as the roots and petioles would be ofinterest. Thanks! Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ju-bo@msn.com wrote: Dear All, Please DON`T take my suggestion a ''final'' solution. I usually tryto stay out of these discussions on I.D.`ing store-bought plants, but this oneis interesting now that I have seen a photo. It is not a ''birdsnest" type, and is NOT in my opinion a pure species. The up-turnedposterior lobes of the leaves which create the impression of a''cup"" are NOT like A. fausto., which has a HUGE, almost flatcordate leaf, VERY 'hard-textured'. Steve will have photos on his site ofa pure A. faustomir. I`d like to see a photo of an inflorescence on this (Jared`s) plant, as thebloom on a pure A. fausto. is large, and has a cup-shaped large spathe whichspreads over the spadix like a roof, and a very shortpeduncle/stem. Jared`s plant might exibit a differentspathe/peduncle which may offer hints as to the plant`s possibly mixedparentage. Julius Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:41:04 -0700 From: jaredr.mckinley@gmail.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] (no subject) >>This is the photo sent to me when I purchased the plant. I could takeanother and send it, but I won't have a chance until Monday or Tuesday. The leaves are NOT glossy. They quickly turn coriaceous, it is fairly large (Iassume a bird's nest Anth.). I will record more specific specs when I have the plant in front of me. This isturning out to be quite the challenge to ID. jared -- ((Expecto Patronum)) Jared R. McKinley Horticulturist/Botanist Mercury Ventures 6700 S. X9 Ranch Rd Vail, AZ 85641-6202 Cell: (520) 730-8583 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------_=_NextPart_001_01C96F50.F3464ED6----==============@31559105446818974=

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