Aroid or not?

From: Hort.doc at att.net (Mark McCauley) on 2008.08.08 at 20:43:19(18353) I started growing tubers and bulbs I find in oriental markets. One I bought recently was labeled "Nge Vang". I figured with the range of experience and location of the folks on here, someone might know what it is. Now that it has emerged, it looks somewhat like a calla, or perhaps a canna. Any ideas? Thanks- mark in denver

From: abri1973 at wp.pl (Marek Argent) on 2008.08.09 at 06:29:57(18356) But where is the photo? Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark McCauley" To: Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? > > > I started growing tubers and bulbs I find in oriental markets. One I > bought > recently was labeled "Nge Vang". I figured with the range of experience > and > location of the folks on here, someone might know what it is. Now that it > has emerged, it looks somewhat like a calla, or perhaps a canna. Any > ideas? > Thanks- > mark in denver > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > __________ NOD32 Informacje 3301 (20080727) __________ > > Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez System Antywirusowy NOD32 > http://www.nod32.com lub http://www.nod32.pl > >

From: LLmen at wi.rr.com (Don Martinson) on 2008.08.09 at 14:03:54(18357) Your plant is Nghe Vang = Curcuma longa = turmeric It's in the ginger family. Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen at wi.rr.com On 8/8/08 3:43 PM, "Mark McCauley" wrote: > > > I started growing tubers and bulbs I find in oriental markets. One I bought > recently was labeled "Nge Vang". I figured with the range of experience and > location of the folks on here, someone might know what it is. Now that it > has emerged, it looks somewhat like a calla, or perhaps a canna. Any ideas? > Thanks- > mark in denver > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L at www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.11.16 at 22:01:28(20301) Hello, I've got an ID request, the person asks if it may be an aroid. In this phase and condition it seems to be impossible what plant it is. Plants of the Araceae produce roots just below the leaf bud. This one has no roots at all, it can be the top of an aroid tuber, but it can also belong to any bulbous plants like Tulipa or Hyacinthus What do you think? Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Ines Schonberger To: araceum@wp.eu Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Plant ID request Dear helpful person from the Aroid Identification Center, I am writing to you with a rather unusual request. We received some images from a plant (presumable a Araceae) that was found by customs at the New Zealand border. The plant was in a rather bad (rotten) stage and I can't identify it. I thought you might be able to help and could at least confirm that the object in the picture is indeed a corm of a Araceae. Maybe Dracunculus? The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know. I am grateful for any comment best wishes Ines Ines Schönberger, Ph.D. Herbarium Manager Allan Herbarium (CHR) Landcare Research, PO Box 40, Lincoln 7640, New Zealand Phone: +64 3 321 9797 Fax: +64 3 321 9998 Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.67/2505 - Data wydania: 11/15/09 19:50:00 ------=_NextPart_001_00FE_01CA6710.BAB740F0--------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01CA6710.BAB740F0

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2009.11.17 at 04:16:55(20309) Hi everone, I don't know, but my first thought is a banana tree that was cut rather close with a shovel. Is that a possibility? Is there any info at all about its' origins? Good luck, Sherry HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? Hello, I've got an ID request, the person asks if it may be an aroid. In this phase and condition it seems to be impossible what plant it is. Plants of the Araceae produce roots just below the leaf bud. This one has no roots at all, it can be the top of an aroid tuber, but it can also belong to any bulbous plants like Tulipa or Hyacinthus What do you think? Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Ines Schonberger To: araceum@wp.eu Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Plant ID request Dear helpful person from the Aroid Identification Center, I am writing to you with a rather unusual request. We received some images from a plant (presumable a Araceae) that was found by customs at the New Zealand border. The plant was in a rather bad (rotten) stage and I can't identify it. I thought you might be able to help and could at least confirm that the object in the picture is indeed a corm of a Araceae. Maybe Dracunculus? The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know. I am grateful for any comment best wishes Ines Ines Schönberger, Ph.D. Herbarium Manager Allan Herbarium (CHR) Landcare Research, PO Box 40, Lincoln 7640, New Zealand Phone: +64 3 321 9797 Fax: +64 3 321 9998 Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.67/2505 - Data wydania: 11/15/09 19:50:00 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01CA670A.82A27820----==============19377853336307390=

From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2009.11.17 at 18:03:53(20318) It doesn't look like any of the bulbous Aroids to me... Susan HTML +More --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? To: "discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 5:01 PM Hello, I've got an ID request, the person asks if it may be an aroid. In this phase and condition it seems to be impossible what plant it is. Plants of the Araceae produce roots just below the leaf bud. This one has no roots at all, it can be the top of an aroid tuber, but it can also belong to any bulbous plants like Tulipa or Hyacinthus What do you think? Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Ines Schonberger To: araceum@wp.eu Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Plant ID request Dear helpful person from the Aroid Identification Center, I am writing to you with a rather unusual request. We received some images from a plant (presumable a Araceae) that was found by customs at the New Zealand border. The plant was in a rather bad (rotten) stage and I can't identify it. I thought you might be able to help and could at least confirm that the object in the picture is indeed a corm of a Araceae. Maybe Dracunculus? The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know. I am grateful for any comment best wishes Ines Ines Schönberger, Ph.D. Herbarium Manager Allan Herbarium (CHR) Landcare Research, PO Box 40, Lincoln 7640, New Zealand Phone: +64 3 321 9797 Fax: +64 3 321 9998 Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.67/2505 - Data wydania: 11/15/09 19:50:00 -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-1466720376-1258481033=:94229----==============ƒ76401175690910285=

From: "Ertelt, Jonathan B" <jonathan.ertelt at Vanderbilt.Edu> on 2009.11.18 at 01:03:24(20320) Marek, I think that the piece of plant material in question whould be cleaned, especially the bottom surface. If it's a bulb it will be clearly evident that it's been cut through. If it's a corm or a tuber that will be more apparent as well. Hope that this helps. Jonathan +More > Hello, > > I've got an ID request, the person asks if it may be an aroid. > In this phase and condition it seems to be impossible what plant it is. > Plants of the Araceae produce roots just below the leaf bud. > This one has no roots at all, it can be the top of an aroid tuber, > but it can also belong to any bulbous plants like Tulipa or Hyacinthus > What do you think? > > Marek > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ines Schonberger > To: araceum@wp.eu > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:13 PM > Subject: Plant ID request > > > Dear helpful person from the Aroid Identification Center, > > I am writing to you with a rather unusual request. > > We received some images from a plant (presumable a Araceae) that was found > by customs at the New Zealand border. > > The plant was in a rather bad (rotten) stage and I can't identify it. > > I thought you might be able to help and could at least confirm that the > object in the picture is indeed a corm of a Araceae. Maybe Dracunculus? > > The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know. > > > > I am grateful for any comment > > best wishes > > Ines > > > > Ines Schönberger, Ph.D. > > Herbarium Manager > > Allan Herbarium (CHR) > > Landcare Research, PO Box 40, Lincoln 7640, New Zealand > > Phone: +64 3 321 9797 > > Fax: +64 3 321 9998 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Please consider the environment before printing this email > Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is > confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, > disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by > reply email and then delete the emails. > The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research > New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > > > > Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. > Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com > Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.67/2505 - Data wydania: > 11/15/09 19:50:00 > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Sherry Gates" <TheTropix at msn.com> on 2009.11.18 at 19:50:21(20329) Hi Marek, and everyone, I had read the original message, maybe mis-read because it seemed, to me, like there is really no clue as to it's identity ("presumable a Araceae" sounded like a stab-in-the-dark guess & "The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know". sounds like they really have no idea of what this is) I'd never try to outguess the experts, which I am certainly not, so I suppose I shouldn't even have made a possible suggestion as to its ID. I was going by the appearance of the emerging leaf (folded) & the look of the bulb/corm w/dead leaves attached which (still) resembles a banana tree base that has been cut through (I've seen lots of those! lol). I understand that the appearance isn't always a definitive identifier, but it is after all, all we have to go by at this point. That's why I asked if that was a possibility. Take care and have a great week, Sherry HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: Sherry Gates Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? Hello Sherry, Please read the message below mine. This is not an aroid, rather a half dead Amaryllidaceae or Hyacinthaceae. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Gates To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? Hi everone, I don't know, but my first thought is a banana tree that was cut rather close with a shovel. Is that a possibility? Is there any info at all about its' origins? Good luck, Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Marek Argent To: discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroid or not? Hello, I've got an ID request, the person asks if it may be an aroid. In this phase and condition it seems to be impossible what plant it is. Plants of the Araceae produce roots just below the leaf bud. This one has no roots at all, it can be the top of an aroid tuber, but it can also belong to any bulbous plants like Tulipa or Hyacinthus What do you think? Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Ines Schonberger To: araceum@wp.eu Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: Plant ID request Dear helpful person from the Aroid Identification Center, I am writing to you with a rather unusual request. We received some images from a plant (presumable a Araceae) that was found by customs at the New Zealand border. The plant was in a rather bad (rotten) stage and I can't identify it. I thought you might be able to help and could at least confirm that the object in the picture is indeed a corm of a Araceae. Maybe Dracunculus? The plant arrived from the UK. This all I know. I am grateful for any comment best wishes Ines Ines Schönberger, Ph.D. Herbarium Manager Allan Herbarium (CHR) Landcare Research, PO Box 40, Lincoln 7640, New Zealand Phone: +64 3 321 9797 Fax: +64 3 321 9998 Please consider the environment before printing this email Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.67/2505 - Data wydania: 11/15/09 19:50:00 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Nie znaleziono virusa w tej wiadomosci przychodzacej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.425 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.14.68/2507 - Data wydania: 11/16/09 19:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_02D8_01CA6856.13AC1000----==============799471534999548677=

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