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Wrong name on Philodendron variifolium
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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.18 at 22:57:59(15433)
I just spent an interesting afternoon discussing what I
thought was Philodendron varrifolium with Dr. Croat. The species
I have shown on my website won the 2005 Best in Show Award at the 2005 Aroid
Show using the name P. variifolium. Dr. Croat says we've got this
one wrong and the actual name is Philodendron brandtianum K.
Krause. Tom says this is only the juvenile form and the plant
will eventually become tri-lobed. The error apparently dates back to an
error in Exotica 3. If anyone has an actual photo of the adult form of
Philodendron brandtianum and would be willing to allow me to post it
with credit please let me know. And if anyone has more information to help
make the description more complete I'd love to hear from you on that as
well. Ron Weeks has provided information in the past and I'd love to get
this updated now.
Here's the link to the newly updated page:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20variifolium%20pc.html
Steve Lucas
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From: Bluesea <chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2007.03.19 at 15:36:00(15438)
Variegation is sure pretty on the juvenile
form of this Philo, Steve.
At P1 L1, 'deflex(l)um' error is within a quote, didn't know if you
left that in on purpose.
Also, check brandtianum at P2 L3, P4 L1, P3 L3.
Check variifolium at P5 L2.
Hope the cool nights are over for the year, even cool during yesterday
and today with wind chill factored in, sweater weather.
Later, Russ
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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2007.03.19 at 19:58:08(15445)
Steve:
NO! NO! You misunderstood. The
plant you have, namely Philodendron brandtianum K. Kr. never becomes 3-lobed.
What I said was the P. variifolium Schott, which people have mistakenly been
calling P. brandtianum for years, is a 3-lobed plant.
Tom
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Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator
of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to our FTP Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 5:58
PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Wrong name on
Philodendron variifolium
I just spent an interesting afternoon discussing what I thought was Philodendron varrifolium with Dr.
Croat. The species I have shown on my website won the 2005 Best in Show
Award at the 2005 Aroid Show using the name P.
variifolium. Dr. Croat says we've got this one wrong and
the actual name is Philodendron brandtianum
K. Krause. Tom says
this is only the juvenile form and the plant will eventually become
tri-lobed. The error apparently dates back to an error in Exotica
3. If anyone has an actual photo of the adult form of Philodendron brandtianum and would be
willing to allow me to post it with credit please let me know. And if
anyone has more information to help make the description more complete I'd love
to hear from you on that as well. Ron Weeks has provided information in
the past and I'd love to get this updated now.
Here's the link to the newly updated page:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20variifolium%20pc.html
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.19 at 21:52:01(15448)
Well, the cat is out of the bag! So let me take this
opportunity to thank Russ and all the people on this forum that help out with my
little website project. I think Russ intended to send this message to me
personally but didn't realize he was responding to Aroid l.
Russ often edits what I write. Actually, Russ edits just
about everything I write! I just put stuff on the computer screen and he
makes me look good (well, better). But my site has become a project with
the input of a lot of aroiders and I'd like to thank everyone I can remember at
this moment. Dr. Croat is top on the list, he corrects the bad names on my
photographs and sends me information I'm chasing all the time, sometimes
numerous times in a day. We all owe Tom a great deal for his patience
with all of us.
Dr. Eduardo Gonçalves has also provided an invaluable amount
of information. But there are others who help me all the time. Often
daily. Along with Dr. Croat, Julius Boos has become my personal botany
professor. Enid Offolter sends me photos and information every week.
Then there's Joep Moonen. I couldn't make it through a day without an
email from Joep. And there are lots of others including John
Criswick, LariAnn Garner, Brian Williams, Leland Miyano, Windy Aubrey and
many, many others.
My goal from the beginning has been to provide as accurate
information as possible in an easily understood format. I'm sure you all
know there is a lot of junk information on the internet. My website
project started out as just a personal way to document my own collection but the
crazy thing has taken on a life of its own. I sit here daily answering
emails from people who want to know something about their plants. Half the
time I have to check what I'm about to say with one of the people I've listed
above. We are now receiving approximately 1000 hits per day which I find
phenomenal for a little home grown plant site.
I'd like to invite any of you who have something you think I
need to address, especially errors, to tell me what needs to be fixed. I
try to read every exchange on this forum so I can glean information to add to
the site. My collection is not enormous but I've got over 300 pages up
right now. And it grows daily with at least 100 plants to photograph and
document. Feel free to tell me what you know I need to fix. You will
not hurt my feelings.
I'd like to make this the best possible site for tropical
plant lovers on the net. And I owe a great deal to all of you who have
graciously given me help along the way since the project started 15
months ago. You'll find an invitation to join the IAS right at the top of
the homepage. I have no idea if anyone has joined as a result but that is
the absolute least I can do in exchange for all the great information members of
the IAS provide.
My thanks to you all!
Steve Lucas
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www.ExoticRainforest.com
----- Original Message -----
From:
Bluesea
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:36
AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Wrong name on
Philodendron variifolium
Variegation is sure pretty on the
juvenile form of this Philo, Steve.At P1 L1, 'deflex(l)um' error is
within a quote, didn't know if you left that in on purpose.Also, check
brandtianum at P2 L3, P4 L1, P3 L3.Check variifolium at P5
L2.Hope the cool nights are over for the year, even cool during
yesterday and today with wind chill factored in, sweater
weather.Later, Russ
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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.19 at 22:02:31(15449)
Got it! Thanks Tom. I'll make the correction on
the site.
Steve
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Tom
Croat
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:58
PM
Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Wrong name on
Philodendron variifolium
Steve:
NO! NO! You misunderstood. The plant you have, namely Philodendron brandtianum
K. Kr. never becomes 3-lobed. What I said was the P. variifolium Schott, which
people have mistakenly been calling P. brandtianum for years, is a 3-lobed
plant.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A.
Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box
299, St. Louis, Missouri
63116
(314)
577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to
our FTP Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
From:
aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic
RainforestSent: Sunday,
March 18, 2007 5:58 PMTo:
Discussion of aroidsSubject:
[Aroid-l] Wrong name on Philodendron
variifolium
I just spent an interesting afternoon discussing
what I thought was Philodendron
varrifolium with Dr. Croat. The species I have shown on
my website won the 2005 Best in Show Award at the 2005 Aroid Show using the
name P. variifolium.
Dr. Croat says we've got this one wrong and the actual name is Philodendron brandtianum K.
Krause. Tom says
this is only the juvenile form and the plant will eventually become
tri-lobed. The error apparently dates back to an error in Exotica
3. If anyone has an actual photo of the adult form of Philodendron brandtianum and would be
willing to allow me to post it with credit please let me know. And if
anyone has more information to help make the description more complete I'd
love to hear from you on that as well. Ron Weeks has provided
information in the past and I'd love to get this updated
now.
Here's the link to the newly updated
page:
http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Philodendron%20variifolium%20pc.html
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2007.03.19 at 22:27:18(15450)
Dear Steve:
You are very welcome for the
thanks and it is nice to hear that your site is so successful. Don’t forget to
correct the error about Philodendron brandtianum NOT being 3-lobed ever.
Tom
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Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box
299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to our FTP Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic
Rainforest
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:52
PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Wrong name
on Philodendron variifolium
Well, the cat is out of the bag! So let me take
this opportunity to thank Russ and all the people on this forum that help out
with my little website project. I think Russ intended to send this
message to me personally but didn't realize he was responding to Aroid l.
Russ often edits what I write. Actually, Russ
edits just about everything I write! I just put stuff on the computer
screen and he makes me look good (well, better). But my site has become a
project with the input of a lot of aroiders and I'd like to thank everyone I
can remember at this moment. Dr. Croat is top on the list, he corrects
the bad names on my photographs and sends me information I'm chasing all the
time, sometimes numerous times in a day. We all owe Tom a great deal
for his patience with all of us.
Dr. Eduardo Gonçalves has also provided an invaluable
amount of information. But there are others who help me all the
time. Often daily. Along with Dr. Croat, Julius Boos has become my
personal botany professor. Enid Offolter sends me photos and information
every week. Then there's Joep Moonen.
I couldn't make it through a day without an email from Joep.
And there are lots of others including John
Criswick, LariAnn Garner, Brian Williams, Leland Miyano,
Windy Aubrey and many, many others.
My goal from the beginning has been to provide as
accurate information as possible in an easily understood format. I'm sure
you all know there is a lot of junk information on the internet. My
website project started out as just a personal way to document my own
collection but the crazy thing has taken on a life of its own. I sit here
daily answering emails from people who want to know something about their
plants. Half the time I have to check what I'm about to say with one of
the people I've listed above. We are now receiving approximately 1000
hits per day which I find phenomenal for a little home grown plant site.
I'd like to invite any of you who have something you
think I need to address, especially errors, to tell me what needs to be
fixed. I try to read every exchange on this forum so I can glean
information to add to the site. My collection is not enormous but I've
got over 300 pages up right now. And it grows daily with at least 100
plants to photograph and document. Feel free to tell me what you know I
need to fix. You will not hurt my feelings.
I'd like to make this the best possible site for
tropical plant lovers on the net. And I owe a great deal to all of you
who have graciously given me help along the way since the
project started 15 months ago. You'll find an invitation to join the
IAS right at the top of the homepage. I have no idea if anyone has joined
as a result but that is the absolute least I can do in exchange for all the
great information members of the IAS provide.
My thanks to you all!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
----- Original Message -----
To: Discussion
of aroids
Sent: Monday,
March 19, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Re:
[Aroid-l] Wrong name on Philodendron variifolium
Variegation
is sure pretty on the juvenile form of this Philo, Steve.
At P1 L1, 'deflex(l)um' error is within a quote, didn't know if you left that
in on purpose.
Also, check brandtianum at P2 L3, P4 L1, P3 L3.
Check variifolium at P5 L2.
Hope the cool nights are over for the year, even cool during yesterday and
today with wind chill factored in, sweater weather.
Later, Russ
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From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" <steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2007.03.21 at 06:46:08(15456)
My pleasure Tom. Your willingness to help all of us
learn is very much appreciated. And I corrected the error within seconds
of receiving your email.
My continued thanks, and I'm sure I can say it from
everyone!
Steve
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Tom
Croat
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 5:27
PM
Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Wrong name on
Philodendron variifolium
Dear
Steve:
You are very welcome for the thanks and it is nice to hear that your site is
so successful. Don?t forget to correct the error about Philodendron
brandtianum NOT being 3-lobed ever.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator
of Botany
Missouri
Botanical
Garden
Box
299, St.
Louis, Missouri 63116
(314)
577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to our FTP
Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
From:
aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Lucas Exotic
RainforestSent: Monday,
March 19, 2007 4:52 PMTo:
Discussion of aroidsSubject:
Re: [Aroid-l] Wrong name on Philodendron variifolium
Well, the cat is out of the bag! So let me
take this opportunity to thank Russ and all the people on this forum that help
out with my little website project. I think Russ intended to send this
message to me personally but didn't realize he was responding to Aroid
l.
Russ often edits what I write. Actually, Russ
edits just about everything I write! I just put stuff on the computer
screen and he makes me look good (well, better). But my site has become
a project with the input of a lot of aroiders and I'd like to thank everyone I
can remember at this moment. Dr. Croat is top on the list, he corrects
the bad names on my photographs and sends me information I'm chasing all the
time, sometimes numerous times in a day. We all owe Tom a great
deal for his patience with all of us.
Dr. Eduardo Gonçalves has also provided an
invaluable amount of information. But there are others who help me all
the time. Often daily. Along with Dr. Croat, Julius Boos has
become my personal botany professor. Enid Offolter sends me photos and
information every week. Then there's Joep Moonen. I couldn't make it through a day
without an email from Joep. And there are lots of others
including John Criswick, LariAnn
Garner, Brian Williams, Leland Miyano, Windy Aubrey and many, many
others.
My goal from the beginning has been to provide as
accurate information as possible in an easily understood format. I'm
sure you all know there is a lot of junk information on the internet. My
website project started out as just a personal way to document my own
collection but the crazy thing has taken on a life of its own. I sit
here daily answering emails from people who want to know something about their
plants. Half the time I have to check what I'm about to say with one of
the people I've listed above. We are now receiving approximately 1000
hits per day which I find phenomenal for a little home grown plant
site.
I'd like to invite any of you who have something you
think I need to address, especially errors, to tell me what needs to be
fixed. I try to read every exchange on this forum so I can glean
information to add to the site. My collection is not enormous but I've
got over 300 pages up right now. And it grows daily with at least 100
plants to photograph and document. Feel free to tell me what you know I
need to fix. You will not hurt my feelings.
I'd like to make this the best possible site for
tropical plant lovers on the net. And I owe a great deal to all of you
who have graciously given me help along the way since the
project started 15 months ago. You'll find an invitation to join
the IAS right at the top of the homepage. I have no idea if anyone has
joined as a result but that is the absolute least I can do in exchange for all
the great information members of the IAS
provide.
My thanks to you
all!
Steve Lucas
www.ExoticRainforest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bluesea
To: Discussion
of aroids
Sent: Monday,
March 19, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Re:
[Aroid-l] Wrong name on Philodendron
variifolium
Variegation is sure
pretty on the juvenile form of this Philo, Steve.At P1 L1,
'deflex(l)um' error is within a quote, didn't know if you left that in on
purpose.Also, check brandtianum at P2 L3, P4 L1, P3 L3.Check
variifolium at P5 L2.Hope the cool nights are over for the year,
even cool during yesterday and today with wind chill factored in, sweater
weather.Later, Russ
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