"Equal Opportunity" obsession?

From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.21 at 01:04:30(13199) Hi guys: There was interesting discussion about why most Palm enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were guys and not women. +More Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and women to others? ASJ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Bryant, Susan L." SLBryant at scj.com> on 2005.07.21 at 18:38:02(13206) Hmmm, interesting question. However, I only know one Palm enthusiast, and she is a woman (who is also a well known Aroider and party organizer) Susan +More -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of a san juan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:05 PM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession? Hi guys: There was interesting discussion about why most Palm enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were guys and not women. Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and women to others? ASJ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Abrimaal Svartvinter" abrimaal at o2.pl> on 2005.07.21 at 18:49:26(13207) I think women are rather attracted by wonderful flowers (anthuria, roses, orchids), especially big and scented. Men are analysts, want to know what's inside, what is it made of, how it works... Me +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:04 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession? Hi guys: There was interesting discussion about why most Palm enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were guys and not women. Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and women to others? ASJ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: LLmen llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2005.07.21 at 20:23:19(13208) I think women are rather attracted by wonderful flowers (anthuria, roses, orchids), especially big and scented. Men are analysts, want to know what's inside, what is it made of, how it works... Me Also, I think that men are more interested in "architectural" plants. -- Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: ted.held at us.henkel.com on 2005.07.21 at 20:31:27(13209) I have been a peripheral member of several hobby organizations over the years. Here are my limited observations for growing and cultivating type organizations on this topic: African violets and gesneriads - women dominate, numerically Cryptocoryne (aroids) - men dominate overwhelmingly Tropical fish - men dominate overwhelmingly Bromeliads - roughly 50:50, with a slight edge to women. It would be interesting to know if these observations are general or if memberships fluctuate over different locations. This being an aroid list, we must have the records of convention attendance and overall membership for the Aroid Society. It is also interesting to record here that I am a chemist. When I began, there were very few women chemists. The newer crops are coming in much more balanced. Maybe the membership populations of clubs also change over time. Of course, there are passive members (my typical category) and active members. And there are joiners and loners. It is not easy to know, for example, if many men grow African violets but don't want to go to meetings where the members are all female. Or vice versa. +More Years ago my mother told me that the local garden club was mostly women, with a few ardent male gardeners. She also said that one thing that characterized the men was that they all grew Jack-in-a-pulpits. This is Zone 5, USA. I have a garden full of Jack-in-a-pulpits. I conform to profile._______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Tropicals" Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net> on 2005.07.21 at 20:40:05(13210) And because of me, we have more aroids with simple inflorescence than the roses, orchids, etc, which my husband prefers. Do add our tally to the count! +More Christian and Bill www.SolutionsAnalysis.net -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Abrimaal Svartvinter Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession? I think women are rather attracted by wonderful flowers (anthuria, roses, orchids), especially big and scented. Men are analysts, want to know what's inside, what is it made of, how it works... Me ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:04 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession? Hi guys: There was interesting discussion about why most Palm enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were guys and not women. Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and women to others? ASJ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.22 at 00:30:54(13214) Ok...the reason i ask is that in Palms at least, there are many more men than women in the meetings and societies (and forums). Someone suggested it was because Palms signify to guys "freedom", and "tropical beaches with scantily-clad women", etc, etc...i'm sure these plants signify "tropical beaches" to women too though ;-) +More My feeling is that guys tend to be less interested in "flowers" and more interested in (as some people put it here) the "architecture" of plants - how they look overall, with a tendency away from frilly and bushy plants towards straighter, larger specimens. Personally, i've always had a tendency to like large-leaved tropical plants with strong stems, rather than the flowers on plants (although orchids do attract once in awhile).... --- ted.held@us.henkel.com wrote: > I have been a peripheral member of several hobby > organizations over the > years. Here are my limited observations for growing > and cultivating type > organizations on this topic: > > African violets and gesneriads - women dominate, > numerically > Cryptocoryne (aroids) - men dominate overwhelmingly > Tropical fish - men dominate overwhelmingly > Bromeliads - roughly 50:50, with a slight edge to > women. > > It would be interesting to know if these > observations are general or if > memberships fluctuate over different locations. This > being an aroid list, > we must have the records of convention attendance > and overall membership > for the Aroid Society. > > It is also interesting to record here that I am a > chemist. When I began, > there were very few women chemists. The newer crops > are coming in much > more balanced. Maybe the membership populations of > clubs also change over > time. > > Of course, there are passive members (my typical > category) and active > members. And there are joiners and loners. It is not > easy to know, for > example, if many men grow African violets but don't > want to go to meetings > where the members are all female. Or vice versa. > > Years ago my mother told me that the local garden > club was mostly women, > with a few ardent male gardeners. She also said that > one thing that > characterized the men was that they all grew > Jack-in-a-pulpits. This is > Zone 5, USA. I have a garden full of > Jack-in-a-pulpits. I conform to > profile.> _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Hermine Stover hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2005.07.22 at 13:33:05(13223) At 11:38 AM 7/21/05, Bryant, Susan L. wrote: Hmmm, interesting question. However, I only know one Palm enthusiast, and she is a woman Pauline Sullivan Teddie Buhler, and the list is endless. hermine +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Hermine Stover hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2005.07.22 at 13:34:03(13224) At 01:23 PM 7/21/05, LLmen wrote: I think women are rather attracted by wonderful flowers (anthuria, roses, orchids), especially big and scented. Men are analysts, want to know what's inside, what is it made of, how it works... Me Also, I think that men are more interested in "architectural" plants. -- Don Martinson I am an architect and i rather dislike flowers, roses in particular. hermine +More ps I think this is a silly subject for a thread _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.22 at 16:37:36(13225) Obviously, we are not talking absolutes here, but generalities...much like a curve describes a natural population, there will always be the exceptions. It's like a guy whose Toyota goes bad then makes the implication that Toyotas are bad in general, even though to get a more accurate picture one needs to look at a much larger population of Toyotas. I am also a member of several aggregations, and there are areas which are tilted definitely towards one gender - hymenopterans such as ants for example attract vastly more men than women, even thought there are some very good women researchers and enthusiasts. Anyways, I was just curious, since this came up in another group.... +More --- Hermine Stover wrote: > At 01:23 PM 7/21/05, LLmen wrote: > >>I think women are rather attracted by wonderful > flowers (anthuria, roses, > >>orchids), especially big and scented. Men are > analysts, want to know > >>what's inside, what is it made of, how it works... > >> > >>Me > > > > > >Also, I think that men are more interested in > "architectural" plants. > > > >-- > >Don Martinson > > > I am an architect and i rather dislike flowers, > roses in particular. > > hermine > ps I think this is a silly subject for a thread > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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