variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum

From: Eric Schmidt leu242 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.12 at 17:50:02(13170) Has anyone evr come across variegated Xanthosoma sagittifolium or Philodendron bipinnatifidum? Both are common here in Florida. Xanthosoma sagittigolium 'Albomarginatum Monstrosum' can be found but I am interested in a variegated form of the huge leaf specimens (which might be X. robustum) that are growing in many yards. Also, what about variegated P. x evansii or P. xanadu? Eric Schmidt +More Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions ? no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.07.14 at 21:10:51(13179) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:50 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com +More Subject : [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Eric and Friends, I do believe that what you are seeing and ID`ing as varigated Xanthosoma are mainly a varigated form of Alocasia macrorrizos, not Xanthosoma. The common plant sold as Xanthosoma 'albo marginata' I believe is actually an unidentifed species of true Xanthosoma, at least according to Dr. Goncalves, who is perhaps one of the leading expert on this group. It was named as X. atrovirens by Deni Bown in her book, which I believe is also an error. The species of Xanthosoma w/ the 'frills' under the leaf blade is also an as-yet unnamed species without a 'good' scientific name. It too has been in cultivation for a LONG time, I have it in a book from Brit. Guiana from 1927. I have not seen a varigated P. bipinnatifidum (P. 'selloum') as yet, nor a var. P. evensii or P. xanadu. Good luck, and keep us informed! Good Growing, Julius. Has anyone ever come across variegated Xanthosoma sagittifolium or Philodendron bipinnatifidum? Both are common here in Florida. Xanthosoma sagittigolium 'Albomarginatum Monstrosum' can be found but I am interested in a variegated form of the huge leaf specimens (which might be X. robustum) that are growing in many yards. Also, what about variegated P. x evansii or P. x'anadu? Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Ritchey" sritchey at shreve.net> on 2005.07.16 at 15:00:01(13183) I have some large variegated Xanthosomas that look like sagittifolium to me. Photo posted in IAS ID center. Thanks, Steve +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:50 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject : [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Eric and Friends, I do believe that what you are seeing and ID`ing as varigated Xanthosoma are mainly a varigated form of Alocasia macrorrizos, not Xanthosoma. The common plant sold as Xanthosoma 'albo marginata' I believe is actually an unidentifed species of true Xanthosoma, at least according to Dr. Goncalves, who is perhaps one of the leading expert on this group. It was named as X. atrovirens by Deni Bown in her book, which I believe is also an error. The species of Xanthosoma w/ the 'frills' under the leaf blade is also an as-yet unnamed species without a 'good' scientific name. It too has been in cultivation for a LONG time, I have it in a book from Brit. Guiana from 1927. I have not seen a varigated P. bipinnatifidum (P. 'selloum') as yet, nor a var. P. evensii or P. xanadu. Good luck, and keep us informed! Good Growing, Julius. Has anyone ever come across variegated Xanthosoma sagittifolium or Philodendron bipinnatifidum? Both are common here in Florida. Xanthosoma sagittigolium 'Albomarginatum Monstrosum' can be found but I am interested in a variegated form of the huge leaf specimens (which might be X. robustum) that are growing in many yards. Also, what about variegated P. x evansii or P. x'anadu? Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.07.17 at 22:00:02(13190) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:00 PM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Steve, I had a look at the photo, and do not believe this is X. sagittifolium/robustum. The leaf tissue at the sinus of the rear leaf lobes is full almost to the point of juncture w/ the petiole, P. sagittifolum/robustum has a naked area at this point. If I had to guess, I`d have to say that the plant shown is a cultivar/selection of the one we were discussing, the X. 'albo-varigatum monstrosum' or whatever cock-a-many name it is being called, the one w/ the little 'cups' at the leaf-tips. The other species of Xanthosoma that I have grown which also has this sinus full to the base, very like the one in the photo, is one that grows from tubers you can sometimes buy at Cuban/Latin stores called 'malanga amarillo', or 'yautia amirillo'. To me this is interesting, as Deni Bown equates and actually calls both of these plants by the same scientific name, X. atrovirens. I`d be interested in hearing any other opinions. Sincerely, Julius +More I have some large variegated Xanthosomas that look like sagittifolium to me. Photo posted in IAS ID center. Thanks, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum From : Eric Schmidt Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:50 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject : [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Eric and Friends, I do believe that what you are seeing and ID`ing as varigated Xanthosoma are mainly a varigated form of Alocasia macrorrizos, not Xanthosoma. The common plant sold as Xanthosoma 'albo marginata' I believe is actually an unidentifed species of true Xanthosoma, at least according to Dr. Goncalves, who is perhaps one of the leading expert on this group. It was named as X. atrovirens by Deni Bown in her book, which I believe is also an error. The species of Xanthosoma w/ the 'frills' under the leaf blade is also an as-yet unnamed species without a 'good' scientific name. It too has been in cultivation for a LONG time, I have it in a book from Brit. Guiana from 1927. I have not seen a varigated P. bipinnatifidum (P. 'selloum') as yet, nor a var. P. evensii or P. xanadu. Good luck, and keep us informed! Good Growing, Julius. Has anyone ever come across variegated Xanthosoma sagittifolium or Philodendron bipinnatifidum? Both are common here in Florida. Xanthosoma sagittigolium 'Albomarginatum Monstrosum' can be found but I am interested in a variegated form of the huge leaf specimens (which might be X. robustum) that are growing in many yards. Also, what about variegated P. x evansii or P. x'anadu? Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _____________________________ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Ritchey" sritchey at shreve.net> on 2005.07.18 at 18:30:20(13191) Dear Julius, Thanks for the informative reply. I have quite a few different versions of the ones known as atrovirens or 'pocket plant' in Florida. This one doesn't resemble those very much but does look like the large grocery store malangas. I hate getting stuck with just a cock-a-many name. Steve +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:00 PM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Steve, I had a look at the photo, and do not believe this is X. sagittifolium/robustum. The leaf tissue at the sinus of the rear leaf lobes is full almost to the point of juncture w/ the petiole, P. sagittifolum/robustum has a naked area at this point. If I had to guess, I`d have to say that the plant shown is a cultivar/selection of the one we were discussing, the X. 'albo-varigatum monstrosum' or whatever cock-a-many name it is being called, the one w/ the little 'cups' at the leaf-tips. The other species of Xanthosoma that I have grown which also has this sinus full to the base, very like the one in the photo, is one that grows from tubers you can sometimes buy at Cuban/Latin stores called 'malanga amarillo', or 'yautia amirillo'. To me this is interesting, as Deni Bown equates and actually calls both of these plants by the same scientific name, X. atrovirens. I`d be interested in hearing any other opinions. Sincerely, Julius I have some large variegated Xanthosomas that look like sagittifolium to me. Photo posted in IAS ID center. Thanks, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:50 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject : [Aroid-l] variegated Xanthosoma and Philodendron bipinnatifidum Dear Eric and Friends, I do believe that what you are seeing and ID`ing as varigated Xanthosoma are mainly a varigated form of Alocasia macrorrizos, not Xanthosoma. The common plant sold as Xanthosoma 'albo marginata' I believe is actually an unidentifed species of true Xanthosoma, at least according to Dr. Goncalves, who is perhaps one of the leading expert on this group. It was named as X. atrovirens by Deni Bown in her book, which I believe is also an error. The species of Xanthosoma w/ the 'frills' under the leaf blade is also an as-yet unnamed species without a 'good' scientific name. It too has been in cultivation for a LONG time, I have it in a book from Brit. Guiana from 1927. I have not seen a varigated P. bipinnatifidum (P. 'selloum') as yet, nor a var. P. evensii or P. xanadu. Good luck, and keep us informed! Good Growing, Julius. Has anyone ever come across variegated Xanthosoma sagittifolium or Philodendron bipinnatifidum? Both are common here in Florida. Xanthosoma sagittigolium 'Albomarginatum Monstrosum' can be found but I am interested in a variegated form of the huge leaf specimens (which might be X. robustum) that are growing in many yards. Also, what about variegated P. x evansii or P. x'anadu? Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _____________________________ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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