Peltandra sagittifolia (?)

From: Don Martinson llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2005.01.05 at 18:18:53(12548) I'm looking to dd Peltandra sagittifolia to my collection and although it is a native, I can't seem to find it anywhere! Does anyone know of a source for either plant or seed? How does Peltandra sagittifolia differ from P. virginica? The species Peltandra sagittifolia is not mentioned in either Hortus III nor Gleason and Cronquist's Manual of Vascular Plants of the Northeast United States and Adjacent Canada (at least not in my editions). I would question whether it exists as a separate species. -- Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Balistrieri, Carlo" cbalistrieri at nybg.org> on 2005.01.05 at 19:34:57(12550) The Flora of North America lists both (it's on line). Don didn't find sagittifolia because it's native to the southeast (North Carolina to Florida) and, therefore, wouldn't show in Gleason and Cronquist. Carlo +More Carlo A. Balistrieri Curator of the Rock Garden The New York Botanical Garden 200th Street and Kazimiroff Boulevard Bronx, NY 10458-5126 United States of America 718.817.8027 718.817.8018 fax cbalistrieri@nybg.org _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Sue Thompson sthomp at andrew.cmu.edu> on 2005.01.05 at 20:21:35(12551) Peltandra sagittifolia is indeed a very distinct species and, in my opinion, is one of the prettiest aroids, especially for North American species! Although superficially similar to Peltandra virginia, it differs in vegetative, floral, and fruit characters as well as habitat. It grows in acidic bogs along the coastal plain of the U.S. and is listed as a "species of conservation concern" in several states. The spathe is white and the berries mature to a bright red. I recall a nursery in South Carolina, that specializes in native species, having it for sale several years ago, but I can't remember the nursery's name. I think it was in Aiken, SC. Cheers, Sue Thompson +More Pittsburgh, PA --On Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:18 PM -0600 Don Martinson wrote: I'm looking to dd Peltandra sagittifolia to my collection and although it is a native, I can't seem to find it anywhere! Does anyone know of a source for either plant or seed? How does Peltandra sagittifolia differ from P. virginica? The species Peltandra sagittifolia is not mentioned in either Hortus III nor Gleason and Cronquist's Manual of Vascular Plants of the Northeast United States and Adjacent Canada (at least not in my editions). I would question whether it exists as a separate species. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@wi.rr.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Sue A. Thompson, Ph.D. President Pennsylvania Biodiversity Partnership 16 Terminal Way Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1209 tel: 412-481-4100 fax: 412-481-1019 e-mail: sthomp@andrew.cmu.edu or thompson@pabiodiversity.org PLEASE NOTE CHANGE IN TELEPHONE NUMBER _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Craig Presnell" jcpresnell at earthlink.net> on 2005.01.05 at 20:55:14(12552) The obvious visual difference between P. virginica and P. sagittifolia is that in the latter the upper 2/3s of the spath is white and the berries ripen to a bright red , whereas P. virginica has a green spath and greenish-brown berries. I can't help but think those two characteristics alone would be a welcome addition to a collection. I know it is listed as rare in Fl and Ga....and I suspect across its entire range, but still have hopes it is available somewhere. I have seen pictures of it in collections in Germany, for one and mention made of it in Great Britain. Craig +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com on 2005.01.05 at 22:54:32(12555) Sue, the nursery you are talking about is Woodlanders and if I recall correctly I too think I have seen P. sagittifolia listed. Michael _______________________________________________ +More Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Adam Black epiphyte1 at earthlink.net> on 2005.01.06 at 00:58:11(12557) Here in north Florida, P. sagittifolia is very habitat specific and spotty in distribution. Seems that whenever I have found it, there has always been the pitcher plant Sarracenia minor growing nearby, which also has an irregular distribution, rare but locally common in the right areas - acidic sphagnum boggy areas with little or no overhead tree cover and minimal amounts of other types of weedy smothering vegetation. They are easy to overlook, as the plants are small, but when blooming, the beautiful snowy white spathe stands out like a sore thumb. Wherever you find one, there are always more in the general vicinity. Definately much more rare than P. virginica, which seems more common growing as an aquatic emergent in shady areas, especially along rivers and creeks. I can email digital images of both species in habitat to anyone interested. Adam Black +More Craig Presnell wrote: The obvious visual difference between P. virginica and P. sagittifolia is that in the latter the upper 2/3s of the spath is white and the berries ripen to a bright red , whereas P. virginica has a green spath and greenish-brown berries. I can't help but think those two characteristics alone would be a welcome addition to a collection. I know it is listed as rare in Fl and Ga....and I suspect across its entire range, but still have hopes it is available somewhere. I have seen pictures of it in collections in Germany, for one and mention made of it in Great Britain. Craig _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Bamboo Chik" bamboochik at earthlink.net> on 2005.01.06 at 11:23:23(12559) Could it have been "Woodlanders"? I must go for a walk through my wetlands this spring and be on the lookout for it. That would be a nice surprise to come upon. Thanks to birds, I get many here...b.f.n..deb/s.al . I recall a nursery in South > Carolina, that specializes in native species, having it for sale several > years ago, but I can't remember the nursery's name. I think it was in > Aiken, SC. +More > > Cheers, > Sue Thompson > Pittsburgh, PA > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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