Pictures on Aroid-L (was "smallest Aroid")

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2004.11.27 at 23:42:05(12434) Aroiders, This is another of those things we really should put in an "Aroid-L FAQ", and obviously I haven't ever done that. Historically, there are several reasons we've never wanted to allow attachments such as pictures; that policy can change, depending on the desires of you the list members, since Aroid-L exists for aroiders. The 2 biggest: 1) They require lots more bits than text. Most of the people in the world don't even have high-speed dialup Internet, much less broadband, and there are still people who have to pay based on the number of bits they send/receive. (And whatever limit you set on file size and however often you remind people, there will be numerous violations and complaints.) 2) The many forms of "objectionable content", including but not limited to viruses and worms, ads for all sorts of things, and images than range from completely innocent to "would make a porn star blush". As an alternative, there's an "ID center" linked from the IAS web site (www.aroid.org) where pictures can be posted. The idea was that people who wanted to see them could easily do so, while others did not have to download them. But the issue can be revisited at any time ... I don't appear to have a way to limit attachments by size, nor am I willing to invest the extra personal time to look at every attachment before it goes out. I can limit by type, so that only things which CLAIM (note the emphasis) to be a JPEG image should go through. (As usual, it's nowhere near that simple in reality.) Feel free to e-mail me directly with your thoughts on the matter, or, of course, it's a valid topic for discussion on the list (I hope it won't completely swamp all other topics though). Steve +More On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Neil Crafter wrote: > Hi Donna .... I received the photos on the list message and don't see > why we can't attach photos to our messages (assuming they are small low > resolution photo files). Any ideas? ... > > On 26/11/2004, at 2:55 PM, Donna McGraw wrote: > > > Hi, Julius.? Thanks for offering to help with the identification.? > > I'll attach the pictures for you. > > ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Julius Boos > > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > Sent:Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:59 PM > > Subject:Re: [Aroid-l] smallest Aroid > > > > No pics were posted w/ your note, I do not believe the list allows > > them.?? If you like send me an attachment tio my off-list e-mail--- -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Leo A. Martin" <leo1010 at attglobal.net> on 2004.11.28 at 00:39:44(12436) Please, I vote no on attachments. Those who wish to display images may already post them online. Go ahead and do so. If you don't want to bother learning how to do so, or if it's too much time and trouble to do so, imagine how we with slow dial-up connections feel when people send us large attachments that take 5-10 minutes to download. And then somebody hits the Forward button to reply, "Ooh, that was a pretty picture" and they have their E-mail program set to automatically forward attachments. So we have to suffer through receiving the image again. So, please no attachments on the list. Leo +More -- Leo A. Martin Phoenix, Arizona, USA Steve Marak wrote: Historically, there are several reasons we've never wanted to allow attachments such as pictures; that policy can change, depending on the desires of you the list members, since Aroid-L exists for aroiders. The 2 biggest: 1) They require lots more bits than text. Most of the people in the world don't even have high-speed dialup Internet, much less broadband, and there are still people who have to pay based on the number of bits they send/receive. snip 2) The many forms of "objectionable content", including but not limited to viruses and worms, ads for all sorts of things, and images than range from completely innocent to "would make a porn star blush". _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Dean Ouer" <d.ouer at cox.net> on 2004.11.28 at 02:37:00(12438) I have no specific suggestions as to how to do it, but I would love to be able to see pictures that members wished to post. Of course I have unlimited broadband, and am not easily offended. +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pictures on Aroid-L (was "smallest Aroid") Aroiders, This is another of those things we really should put in an "Aroid-L FAQ", and obviously I haven't ever done that. Historically, there are several reasons we've never wanted to allow attachments such as pictures; that policy can change, depending on the desires of you the list members, since Aroid-L exists for aroiders. The 2 biggest: 1) They require lots more bits than text. Most of the people in the world don't even have high-speed dialup Internet, much less broadband, and there are still people who have to pay based on the number of bits they send/receive. (And whatever limit you set on file size and however often you remind people, there will be numerous violations and complaints.) 2) The many forms of "objectionable content", including but not limited to viruses and worms, ads for all sorts of things, and images than range from completely innocent to "would make a porn star blush". As an alternative, there's an "ID center" linked from the IAS web site (www.aroid.org) where pictures can be posted. The idea was that people who wanted to see them could easily do so, while others did not have to download them. But the issue can be revisited at any time ... I don't appear to have a way to limit attachments by size, nor am I willing to invest the extra personal time to look at every attachment before it goes out. I can limit by type, so that only things which CLAIM (note the emphasis) to be a JPEG image should go through. (As usual, it's nowhere near that simple in reality.) Feel free to e-mail me directly with your thoughts on the matter, or, of course, it's a valid topic for discussion on the list (I hope it won't completely swamp all other topics though). Steve On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Neil Crafter wrote: > Hi Donna .... I received the photos on the list message and don't see > why we can't attach photos to our messages (assuming they are small low > resolution photo files). Any ideas? ... > > On 26/11/2004, at 2:55 PM, Donna McGraw wrote: > > > Hi, Julius. Thanks for offering to help with the identification. > > I'll attach the pictures for you. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Julius Boos > > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > Sent:Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:59 PM > > Subject:Re: [Aroid-l] smallest Aroid > > > > No pics were posted w/ your note, I do not believe the list allows > > them. If you like send me an attachment tio my off-list e-mail--- -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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