black anthurium ?

From: "Lyn Edwards" lynelda at austarmetro.com.au> on 2001.09.25 at 02:50:15(7540) I have just acquired a plant sold to me as a black anthurium from an orchid grower who didn,t know anything about this plant.Does such a plant exist ? I have taken a couple of digital photos which I could send if anyone could take a look for me. The leaves are about 2 feet tall and held very stiffly. The flower is nestled at the base and is very definately black , Lyn Edwards +More Canberra Australia email lynelda@austarmetro.com.au

From: Albert Huntington balberth at yahoo.com> on 2001.09.25 at 14:51:55(7541) Hello Lyn, If you're talking about an anthurium with a flower that looks superficially like A. andreanum, but having a deep purple to almost black spathe, yes, such a beast does in fact exist. Speculation when the list last discussed it ( search the archives at http://www.mallorn.com/lists/aroid-l/ ) was that it is Anthurium cabrerense Engler from Colombia. +More I am growing a couple of them with only moderate success, and I have not had them flower for me yet. Apparently, they like the temperature fairly cool, which is difficult for most of us to provide year round. Tito Wee has a picture up at the bottom of this page: http://www.dragonagro.com/dapanthurium.htm Anthurium watermaliense is also sometimes refered to as "black anthurium", but the infloresence is not as impressive. A picture and description can be seen at http://www.aroid.org/genera/Anthurium/pachyneurinum/watermal.html --Albert --- Lyn Edwards wrote: > I have just acquired a plant sold to me as a black anthurium ===== Albert Huntington San Jose, CA U.S.A. Visit my greenhouse at: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/1436 ----------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.09.27 at 03:40:07(7550) There was an extended discussion on aroid-l on this topic early this year. This was from a message I sent last May. << +More Dragon-Agro Products in their display at the Greater New York Orchid Society Show last month. >>>See attached jpgs please. << out the Dragon Agro page if they have other clones for sale. The sunlight coming through the glass ceiling of the Wintergarden at the World Financial Center probably helped to contribute to the reddish sheen. At first impression in actual encounter, it does appear black, and in a shady greenhouse or in the jungle probably darker too.>>> Unfortunately this April we probably won't have a show there. Bonaventure Magrys Cliffwood Beach, NJ USA(See attached file: Black Anthurium 1.jpg)(See attached file: Black Anthurium 2.jpg) "Lyn Edwards" @mobot.org on 09/24/2001 10:51:02 PM Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L cc: Subject: black anthurium ? I have just acquired a plant sold to me as a black anthurium from an orchid grower who didn,t know anything about this plant.Does such a plant exist ? I have taken a couple of digital photos which I could send if anyone could take a look for me. The leaves are about 2 feet tall and held very stiffly. The flower is nestled at the base and is very definately black , Lyn Edwards Canberra Australia email lynelda@austarmetro.com.au Black Anthurium 1.jpg Black Anthurium 2.jpg

From: Piabinha at aol.com on 2001.09.27 at 03:42:22(7551) In a message dated 9/25/2001 10:52:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, balberth@yahoo.com writes: If you're talking about an anthurium with a flower that looks superficially like A. andreanum, but having a deep purple to almost black spathe, yes, such a beast does in fact exist. hi lynn, i got your pics. yours does not seem to be the plant that albert refers to above, which i have also seen for sale at the ny orchid show. your plant's spathe is not as impressive as the one mentioned above and it doesn't look like the "black andreanum." but it's very nice nonetheless. where did you get this? sorry can't help you, but at least you know what it isn't... :-) tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.09.27 at 14:45:18(7553) To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:42 PM Subject: Re: black anthurium ? Dear Folks, First off, I am NOT an Anthurium person, so am only offering this info. as a 'tip' to what this plant ( I have not seen a photo as yet) MAY turn out to be---at least ONE of the so-called 'black' Anthuriums is Anthurium berriozabalense--I have seen this plant presented as the 'black' Anthurium on several occasions, and though it does not have as large a spathe as the seemingly as-yet-undescribed species from the highlands of Colombia, some specimens demonstrate a respectably sized purple-black spathe, but it is carried errect on a much longer peduncle than the Colombian species. I believe that the photos posted by a member this morning ( I had some trouble w/ the d/load, so could not keep the file!) are of Anthurium berriozablense, this species, with grey-green THICK-textured sagittate leaf blades grows in the low lands of Mexico as a terrestrial, while the species w/ the short peduncle and a much larger spathe grows as an epiphite on trees in the high altitudes of Colombia. This is one more lesson on the value of Latin scientific names! Cheers, Julius +More >>In a message dated 9/25/2001 10:52:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, balberth@yahoo.com writes: If you're talking about an anthurium with a flower that looks superficially like A. andreanum, but having a deep purple to almost black spathe, yes, such a beast does in fact exist.hi lynn, i got your pics. yours does not seem to be the plant that albert refers to above, which i have also seen for sale at the ny orchid show. your plant's spathe is not as impressive as the one mentioned above and it doesn't look like the "black andreanum." but it's very nice nonetheless. where did you get this? sorry can't help you, but at least you know what it isn't... :-) tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orchidspecies

From: Betsy Feuerstein ecuador at midsouth.rr.com> on 2001.10.09 at 02:44:32(7564) Yes, we did have great discussion about this plant last spring. I will put my two cents in here since I was out of the country when it was apropos. This plant is Colombian, #1. There is a great variance in its black quality. Some are very black and some have a maroon color cast. I suspect the one in the picture is an old flower and one that has more of a red cast to it. All are very pretty but one has to accept that there is some variance in the 'black' quality of the flowers. I know it is grown in Florida by one grower under a mist system but in general, being honest, it is a difficult one to grow. I have grown it here in mid America and flowered it. I fully agree that it is most likely a fairly high altitude plant. I brought a few back with me so if anyone is interested, they can get in touch with me off line. All that I brought back were in flower so I could determine the quality of the flower color. I went through hundreds of plants to pick the best that were in bloom. Betsy +More magrysbo@shu.edu wrote: > There was an extended discussion on aroid-l on this topic early this year. > This was from a message I sent last May. > << > Dragon-Agro Products in their display at the Greater New York Orchid > Society Show last month. >>>See attached jpgs please. << > out the Dragon Agro page if they have other clones for sale. The sunlight > coming through the glass ceiling of the Wintergarden at the World Financial > Center probably helped to contribute to the reddish sheen. At first > impression in actual encounter, it does appear black, and in a shady > greenhouse or in the jungle probably darker too.>>> > Unfortunately this April we probably won't have a show there. > Bonaventure Magrys > Cliffwood Beach, NJ USA(See attached file: Black Anthurium 1.jpg)(See > attached file: Black Anthurium 2.jpg) > > "Lyn Edwards" @mobot.org on 09/24/2001 10:51:02 > PM > > Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org > > Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org > > To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L > cc: > > Subject: black anthurium ? > > I have just acquired a plant sold to me as a black anthurium from an > orchid > grower who didn,t know anything about this plant.Does such a plant exist ? > I > have taken a couple of digital photos which I could send if anyone could > take a look for me. The leaves are about 2 feet tall and held very stiffly. > The flower is nestled at the base and is very definately black , > Lyn Edwards > Canberra > Australia > email lynelda@austarmetro.com.au > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: Black Anthurium 1.jpg > Black Anthurium 1.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > > Name: Black Anthurium 2.jpg > Black Anthurium 2.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64

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