Bargains at the Indian Mart

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.08.22 at 00:03:33(7266) Dear fellow aroiders, I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24. Just imagine what shipping costs alone would be for the cantalope and grapefruit sized tubers. The second one I bought because it was among others in a separate bin. I was told that it is the same but has a different taste. It will be interesting to see if there are vegetative and floral differences. The tubers are healthy and firm with no damage, though no growing points are apparent yet. They don't appear to be covered in wax. I set them down on moist soil under clear plastic of an open cold frame where they'll get 2-3 hours of sun a day, until the nights get too cold or they start growing. A Kaichen A-103 2000 lost its point this spring but with this treatment recently rallied with three fat shoots and now is in pot. Bonaventure Magrys +More Cliffwood beach, NJ USA

From: Don Martinson llmen at execpc.com> on 2001.08.22 at 16:41:27(7270) >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's. -- Don Martinson +More Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.08.23 at 00:51:48(7277) OK, what lbs.? I seemed to have picked out the largest from each bin. Next time I'm on Oak Tree Road I'll go up further and see if there are more grocery shops (probably are) and what they have and charge. Don Martinson @mobot.org on 08/22/2001 12:41:46 PM Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org +More To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L cc: Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.08.23 at 00:52:05(7278) >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 +More >>Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's.<< I posted on this some time ago, advising that it was a fantastic bargain. I sometimes find them at an Indian Grocery here in WPB, Florida, the shop keeper told me that they are imported fresh from Jamaica where they are in cultivation. They probably come out of the commercial importers of tropical produce in Miami, the smae one that supply the Xanthosomas, Colocasias, Dioscorias, and MANY other vars. of all sorts of Tropical produce we now find in ethnic shops all over the USA. Julius Boos WPB, Florida. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

From: "mjhatfield" mjhatfield at oneota.org> on 2001.08.23 at 03:55:28(7284) Yes, Don, there are others (myself included) who would like to obtain these "super sized" Amorph's. MJ Hatfield +More

From: "brian williams" pugturd50 at hotmail.com> on 2001.08.23 at 05:26:16(7285) A few months ago I got a message from R.S Misra In Indea. He is a guy who grows amorpho comercially for food and other produces. His website is http://geocities.com/rsmisra2000 Some great pics of basketball size bulbs. he seemed interested in a lot of other aroids as well. He maybe even talked in to shipping them here. But on the big ones shipping could be a killer. +More _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.08.23 at 22:37:50(7293) Yes, thanks Julius. It was you I think that made up the table with the aroid common, scientific, and local names as well as country where they are eaten. This inspired me to go looking when I was informed of the local Indian shopping area not too far from me. Perhaps other members in areas other than Miami, NYC, or suburban New Jersey can locate some and write about it. +More After seeing the web site forwarded by Brian I'm hoping these things will grow like that. I was really blown away by some of the pics. The expense of my first small paeonifolius from a nursery led me to coddle it too much and probably contributed to its steady growth -- in reverse. Sorry Mr. A., but these priced tubers may allow me more ease in purchasing and providing some benign neglect! Bonaventure "Julius Boos" @mobot.org on 08/22/2001 08:52:51 PM Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L cc: Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 >>Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's.<< I posted on this some time ago, advising that it was a fantastic bargain. I sometimes find them at an Indian Grocery here in WPB, Florida, the shop keeper told me that they are imported fresh from Jamaica where they are in cultivation. They probably come out of the commercial importers of tropical produce in Miami, the smae one that supply the Xanthosomas, Colocasias, Dioscorias, and MANY other vars. of all sorts of Tropical produce we now find in ethnic shops all over the USA. Julius Boos WPB, Florida. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

From: "WEAVER,BILL (HP-USA,ex3)" bill_weaver at hp.com> on 2001.08.25 at 03:22:00(7300) After reading this yesterday I went down to my local Indian Mart (Coconut Hill, 554 S. Murphy Ave, Sunnyvale, California) and asked for Suran. They had it, but it was in saran wrapped chunks. I asked if they had it in its natural state. The proprieter took me to the back where she had a large box filled with 6 to 7 inch tubers. I bought two at $3.49 a pound and will be planting them this weekend. I'll let you know how they do. Bill Weaver +More bill_weaver@hp.com ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 >>Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's.<< I posted on this some time ago, advising that it was a fantastic bargain. I sometimes find them at an Indian Grocery here in WPB, Florida, the shop keeper told me that they are imported fresh from Jamaica where they are in cultivation. They probably come out of the commercial importers of tropical produce in Miami, the smae one that supply the Xanthosomas, Colocasias, Dioscorias, and MANY other vars. of all sorts of Tropical produce we now find in ethnic shops all over the USA. Julius Boos WPB, Florida. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

From: Paul Tyerman ptyerman at ozemail.com.au> on 2001.08.25 at 19:27:32(7301) At 05:38 23/08/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes, thanks Julius. It was you I think that made up the table with the >aroid common, scientific, and local names as well as country where they are >eaten. This inspired me to go looking when I was informed of the local >Indian shopping area not too far from me. Perhaps other members in areas >other than Miami, NYC, or suburban New Jersey can locate some and write >about it. Is this table in the archives? If so, what should I search the archives for? Would like to have a look at the names and check out whether any of these are here in Australia too. Thanks in anticipation. Cheers. Paul Tyerman +More Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.08.25 at 19:29:01(7302) Good that some are managing to find 'suran' (Amorphophallus) in the Indian groceries, I am told that it is a seasonal 'thing', only offered at certain 'feast' seasons, so take advantage of their availability while you acn! Julius +More >>After reading this yesterday I went down to my local Indian Mart (Coconut Hill, 554 S. Murphy Ave, Sunnyvale, California) and asked for Suran. They had it, but it was in saran wrapped chunks. I asked if they had it in its natural state. The proprieter took me to the back where she had a large box filled with 6 to 7 inch tubers. I bought two at $3.49 a pound and will be planting them this weekend. I'll let you know how they do. Bill Weaver<< bill_weaver@hp.com ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart >Dear fellow aroiders, >I went on a search for "suran" at Indian groceries in Edison, NJ and found >it, for $2.99 a pound. That translates to one 5 lb. tuber of Amorphophalus >paeonifolius and one 3 lb. for about $24 >>Obviously, someone imports these on a commercial basis. I wonder if there aren't others (myself included) that would like to be able to obtain these "super-sized" Amorph's.<< I posted on this some time ago, advising that it was a fantastic bargain. I sometimes find them at an Indian Grocery here in WPB, Florida, the shop keeper told me that they are imported fresh from Jamaica where they are in cultivation. They probably come out of the commercial importers of tropical produce in Miami, the smae one that supply the Xanthosomas, Colocasias, Dioscorias, and MANY other vars. of all sorts of Tropical produce we now find in ethnic shops all over the USA. Julius Boos WPB, Florida. -- Don Martinson Milwaukee, Wisconsin Mailto:llmen@execpc.com

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.08.27 at 14:38:54(7305) At 05:38 23/08/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes, thanks Julius. It was you I think that made up the table with the >aroid common, scientific, and local names as well as country where they are >eaten. This inspired me to go looking when I was informed of the local >Indian shopping area not too far from me. Perhaps other members in areas >other than Miami, NYC, or suburban New Jersey can locate some and write >about it. Dear Paul, Go to www.aroid.org, click on aroid links, and select Dr Les. Kallus' page on 'Growing Edible Aroids', and within that page there is the list. Lots of other interesting pages on aroids here also!! Good luck, Julius +More >Is this table in the archives? If so, what should I search the archives for? Would like to have a look at the names and check out whether any of these are here in Australia too. Thanks in anticipation. Cheers. Paul Tyerman< Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!

From: Scott Hyndman hyndman at aroid.org> on 2001.08.27 at 14:39:15(7307) Paul, The page with the information you are interested in is on Lester Kallus' Web site at http://www.kallus.com/aroids/ediblearoids.htm. It is linked to in the IAS site under the category of Aroid Ethnobotany and Cuisine on the Aroid Links page. +More Regards, Scott --------------------- Mr. Scott Hyndman International Aroid Society Web Site Vero Beach, Florida, USA USDA Hardiness Zone 10a E-mail: hyndman@aroid.org on 8/25/01 3:26 PM, Paul Tyerman at ptyerman@ozemail.com.au wrote: > At 05:38 23/08/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >> Yes, thanks Julius. It was you I think that made up the table with the >> aroid common, scientific, and local names as well as country where they are >> eaten. This inspired me to go looking when I was informed of the local >> Indian shopping area not too far from me. Perhaps other members in areas >> other than Miami, NYC, or suburban New Jersey can locate some and write >> about it. > > Is this table in the archives? If so, what should I search the archives > for? Would like to have a look at the names and check out whether any of > these are here in Australia too. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Cheers. > > Paul Tyerman > Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 > mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au > > Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, > Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that > doesn't move!!!!! >

From: Paul Tyerman ptyerman at ozemail.com.au> on 2001.08.28 at 15:20:43(7312) Thanks to both Julius and Scott for their response. I must admit I hadn't thought to look at the Edible Aroids page on the site..... but now that you mention it that makes a LOT of sense . Cheers. Paul Tyerman +More Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!

From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.08.29 at 01:28:09(7317) My apologies to Les, it was his scholarship at http://www.kallus.com/aroids/ediblecommon.htm which inspired me to search for the Suran. +More Bonaventure "Julius Boos" @mobot.org on 08/27/2001 10:38:59 AM Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L cc: Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Bargains at the Indian Mart At 05:38 23/08/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Yes, thanks Julius. It was you I think that made up the table with the >aroid common, scientific, and local names as well as country where they are >eaten. This inspired me to go looking when I was informed of the local >Indian shopping area not too far from me. Perhaps other members in areas >other than Miami, NYC, or suburban New Jersey can locate some and write >about it. Dear Paul, Go to www.aroid.org, click on aroid links, and select Dr Les. Kallus' page on 'Growing Edible Aroids', and within that page there is the list. Lots of other interesting pages on aroids here also!! Good luck, Julius >Is this table in the archives? If so, what should I search the archives for? Would like to have a look at the names and check out whether any of these are here in Australia too. Thanks in anticipation. Cheers. Paul Tyerman< Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!

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