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Arisaema
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From: Duncan McAlpine <mcalpin at eskimo.com> on 1996.12.29 at 01:54:08(20)
For you hungry Arisaema collectors, Heronswood Nursery has released the
following 1997 species:
Arisaema aff. griffithii HWJCM 147
A. amurense
A. angustatum var.penin f. varieg DJH 171
A. angustatum Var. Peninsulae DJH 192
A. consanguineum
A. draconitium
A. erubescens
A. flavum
A. franchetianum
A. heterophyllum
A. jacquemontii
A. nepenthoides
A. ringens BSWJ 1522
A. sazensoo
A. speciosum
A. taiwanensis - grey leaf
A. taiwanensis BSWJ 1879
A tortuosum - blackstem form
A. tortuosum HWJCM 561
A. triphyllum
A. aff. verrucosum HWJCM 161
Well that is it and my check book is going to be a little bit emptier
this year.. Don’t tell my wife... I have noticed that GardenNet has
Heronswood on their homepage catalog listing for downloading. For some
reason it will not work for me and I assume I have all the correct
plugins and gizmo’s. I hate when a Nursery pay’s money to a service a=
nd
it does not work for a customer. If Dan has the time, I will teach him
how to do this or one of his staff to put his catalog on the internet.
Heronswood address is located at GardenNet or on my main homepage. THe
catalog is $4.00 USD and is worth every penny. IT IS THICK and full of
plants.
--
Duncan McAlpine
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Federal Way, WA USA
Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....?
http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/
http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/pumkin.html
http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/aps.html
http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/soc.html
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From: david at victor.u-net.com (DX Victor) on 1997.01.23 at 18:26:40(223)
Jim Archibald's new (January 97) catalogue arrived today. It includes a number
of Arisaema, some of interest. Two from Needham collections (consanguineum
from EN2459 Yunnan and exappendiculatum EN ? green form from Nepal). Most
interesting to me is A. yamatense var sugimotoi from Honshu, collected by
Don Elick 1996. The latter costs $9 for 8 seeds.
He can be contacted at Bryn Collen, Ffostrasol, Llandysul, Dyfed, SA44 5SB.
If you have not come across it before, that really is how the words are
spelt: It's just Welsh!
Regards,
David Victor
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A proud U-NET customer
someone@somewhere.u-net.com
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From: Robert Stewart <stewart at livingonline.com> on 1997.01.24 at 13:46:20(230)
DX Victor wrote:
>
> Jim Archibald's new (January 97) catalogue arrived today. It includes a number
> of Arisaema, some of interest. Two from Needham collections (consanguineum
> from EN2459 Yunnan and exappendiculatum EN ? green form from Nepal). Most
> interesting to me is A. yamatense var sugimotoi from Honshu, collected by
> Don Elick 1996. The latter costs $9 for 8 seeds.
> He can be contacted at Bryn Collen, Ffostrasol, Llandysul, Dyfed, SA44 5SB.
> If you have not come across it before, that really is how the words are
> spelt: It's just Welsh!
>
> Regards,
> David Victor
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> A proud U-NET customer
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> someone@somewhere.u-net.com
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Is there any chance you can E. mail me a copy of the Archibald 97 list,
we are in Jims mailing list but snail mail takes forever and I would
like to get an order in early before all the good stuff is gone.Does he
have an E-Mail address? I can highly recommend Archibalds seed, it's
very clean germinates well, better still is almost always true to name:
also a bit $$ but you get what you pay for, and they're quality and
selection is worth it.
Bob Stewart
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From: david at victor.u-net.com (DX Victor) on 1997.02.10 at 01:40:22(316)
Hi there UK Arisaema lovers.
I just received Crug Nursery's new catalogue and it contains a wealth of
Arisaema. In total, it contains some 45 entries, including a wide range of
Bleddyn's own collections from Korea/Taiwan. In addition, it includes a
number of Japanese entries which he is importing.
The downside is that he does not do mail order under any circumstances, so
you must travel to the Menai Straits to get the plants.
Sorry to you guys elsewhere in the world, but many nurseries here are not
keen on the cost and difficulty in handling mail order.
Regards,
David Victor
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A proud U-NET customer
someone@somewhere.u-net.com
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From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.02.10 at 03:43:01(319)
Question..... Why would someone put out a catalog if they did not intend
to use it as mail order? I'm not trying to be funny... just wanted to
know.
Dewey
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>Hi there UK Arisaema lovers.
>I just received Crug Nursery's new catalogue and it contains a wealth of
>Arisaema. In total, it contains some 45 entries, including a wide range of
>Bleddyn's own collections from Korea/Taiwan. In addition, it includes a
>number of Japanese entries which he is importing.
>The downside is that he does not do mail order under any circumstances, so
>you must travel to the Menai Straits to get the plants.
>Sorry to you guys elsewhere in the world, but many nurseries here are not
>keen on the cost and difficulty in handling mail order.
>Regards,
>David Victor
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>A proud U-NET customer
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>someone@somewhere.u-net.com
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Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
Davie, Florida 33328
FAX: (954) 680-0305
e-mail: plantnut@shadow.net
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From: rosiebig at gim.net (Richard H Rosenberg) on 1997.02.10 at 04:19:18(320)
>Question..... Why would someone put out a catalog if they did not intend
>to use it as mail order? I'm not trying to be funny... just wanted to
>know. >Dewey
Olivers in Connecticut puts out a catalogue and they do not do mailorder
either. When I read their catalogue I make plans to get to their nursery
to buy the plants in which I am interested.
Ann Rosenberg Pennsylvania
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From: david at victor.u-net.com (DX Victor) on 1997.02.10 at 23:41:26(327)
Dewey wrote:
>Question..... Why would someone put out a catalog if they did not intend
>to use it as mail order? I'm not trying to be funny... just wanted to
>know.
>Dewey
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>
Sorry Dewey, can't help you. However, don't forget that any enthusiast in
the UK can travel the length and breadth in a day or so, and many do so.
For this nursery's plants, I would be willing to travel far and wide. There
are so many new plants from so many interesting places that they have
collected, its mind blowing.
Regards,
David Victor
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From: plantnut at shadow.net (Dewey Fisk) on 1997.02.22 at 04:55:59(415)
The IAS has received a request and I trust that some of our participants
can help... Mr Erich Pohle, Otto Hurrass Strasse 25, D-01979, Lauchhammer
- Mitte, Germany is looking to purchase 2 to 8 tubers of Arisaema elephas.
Is this a good name? Would someone contact him and see if they can help?
I would appreciate it if you would cc to me. I will forward any
information to Mr. Pohle that is pertinent. Unfortunately, he does not
list an e-mail address.
Thank you,
Dewey
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Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
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From: "Giuseppe Orlando" gius_orlando at terra.es> on 2000.12.25 at 19:19:37(5796)
Hello all,
I am new to the list (and to Aroids), and I am interested in genera
characterized by succulence and tubers.
I am just back from a trip to Yemen where I found an Arisaema that I wasn't
able to classify, on the top of Jebel Sumarah, but had already shed its
leaves (no rests). The inflorescence stalk was about 30 cm or a little more,
bearing some 100 orange-red fruits. In the literature I found that species
growing in Yemen are A. flavum, A. bottae, A. enneaphyllum and A.
pentaphyllum (maybe some are synonyms.. I am new to this genus). Can anybody
give me some hints for the identification and tell me if seeds need any
special treatment for germination (I read that Arisaemas need some
refrigeration, but don't know if all the species need this).
I have some surplus seeds for exchange, if anybody is interested can e-mail
me privately.
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Thanks, and happy holidays
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Giuseppe Orlando
Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Canary Islands
SPAIN
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28.27.19 N
16.14.51 W
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gius_orlando@terra.es
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From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2000.12.26 at 02:30:14(5797)
Giuseppe,
Everything you ever wante to know about Arisaema but were afraid to ask
is available
to members of AEG, Arisaema Enthusiasts Group. E-mail me privately to get
the
requirements for membership.
Ray Stilwell
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GRSJr@Juno.com
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2000.12.27 at 03:41:46(5799)
Giuseppe,
You may de-pulp the seeds in a bowl of water WHILE WEARING RUBBER GLOVES.
(The juice can be very irritating). After a few rinses over a day or so the
bare seeds can be rolled up in a moist paper towel or placed directly on
top (do not bury) of some moist, sterilized, soil mix in a cool shady
place. The paper towel seeds can be checked every few days. This works best
for me and within a week or two a root can be seen coming out of several
seeds. At this point I place them on top of soil mix, and when a leaf pops
out, under flourescent lights for 2-3 months. Then they are dried out and
get their first 3 month chilling. No rest is needed from the seed stage.
This is basically a proceedure I have gotten from literature available to
all AEGers (Arisaema Enthusiasts Group) and by communication with others.
Bonaventure W. Magrys 130 Hilltop Blvd.
Cliffwood Beach, NJ 07735-6001
USA
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"Giuseppe Orlando" @mobot.org on 12/25/2000 02:19:51
PM
Please respond to aroid-l@mobot.org
Sent by: aroid-l@mobot.org
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
cc:
Subject: Arisaema
Hello all,
I am new to the list (and to Aroids), and I am interested in genera
characterized by succulence and tubers.
I am just back from a trip to Yemen where I found an Arisaema that I wasn't
able to classify, on the top of Jebel Sumarah, but had already shed its
leaves (no rests). The inflorescence stalk was about 30 cm or a little
more,
bearing some 100 orange-red fruits. In the literature I found that species
growing in Yemen are A. flavum, A. bottae, A. enneaphyllum and A.
pentaphyllum (maybe some are synonyms.. I am new to this genus). Can
anybody
give me some hints for the identification and tell me if seeds need any
special treatment for germination (I read that Arisaemas need some
refrigeration, but don't know if all the species need this).
I have some surplus seeds for exchange, if anybody is interested can e-mail
me privately.
Thanks, and happy holidays
******************************
Giuseppe Orlando
Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Canary Islands
SPAIN
******************************
28.27.19 N
16.14.51 W
******************************
gius_orlando@terra.es
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From: Dyeingduk at aol.com on 2001.12.11 at 21:15:18(7883)
I was wondering if anyone has tried growing Arisaemas in South Florida. If you have, what was the result. Ive noticed some plants that are listed to max at zone 9 do fine here in Miami. I just figured I would ask before i experimented. Thanks in advance,
Paul Marcellini
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From: Durightmm at aol.com on 2001.12.12 at 15:57:09(7892)
Paul Arisema greow wild in SW Fl. and in Charlotte County in particular. They are found in somewhat boggy areas but seem notorius for dying when transplanted as well with carniverous species. J
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From: mburack at mindspring.com> on 2001.12.12 at 16:58:01(7893)
Paul-
I have tried arisema in S. FLorida and they have all rotted and died on me.
I dont think it was the heat... but more my soil mix.... I have moved to a mix for all plants that is extrememly loose and dry using 30-50% pumice which hold virtually no water.
I would recomm. that if you try growing arisema in S. Flordia that you overwinter them in your refrigerator.... This way they will have the benefit of a "cold" winter.
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From: Piabinha at aol.com on 2001.12.12 at 19:59:21(7894)
how about trying tropical species?
tsuh yang
In a message dated Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:58:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:
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> I would recomm. that if you try growing arisema in S. Flordia that you overwinter them in your refrigerator.... This way they will have the benefit of a "cold" winter.
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From: "Plantsman" plantsman at prodigy.net> on 2001.12.12 at 22:02:04(7896)
I thought that many, if not most, of the tropical species were in
reality higher altitude plants that while seldom frozen, weren't
subjected to extremely high heat either. But then again, I could be
very wrong.
David Sizemore
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Kingsport, TN
plantsman@prodigy.net
Where it's been tropical enough for my Arum italicums
to grow like crazy (and my Musa basjoo bananas!).
----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L"
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Arisaema
: how about trying tropical species?
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: tsuh yang
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: In a message dated Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:58:11 AM Eastern Standard
Time, writes:
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: > I would recomm. that if you try growing arisema in S. Flordia
that you overwinter them in your refrigerator.... This way they will
have the benefit of a "cold" winter.
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From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at email.msn.com> on 2001.12.13 at 15:42:21(7899)
They ( A. triphyllum) grow wild
in S.E. Florida in bogs very near to and on the W. 'bank' of the intercoastal
at Hobe Sound, which is just N. of Jupiter. The ones I examined
had LARGE tubers. Many Peltandra also!!
Julius
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>>Paul Arisema greow wild
in SW Fl. and in Charlotte County in particular. They are found in
somewhat boggy areas but seem notorius for dying when transplanted as well
with carniverous species. J <
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From: "George R Stilwell, Jr." grsjr at juno.com> on 2001.12.13 at 15:45:59(7905)
Hong Kong is hardly a high altitude place yet several Arisaema species
grow there.
One is marginally hardy in North Carolina.
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Ray
GRSJr@Juno.com
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From: magrysbo at shu.edu on 2001.12.14 at 05:26:13(7910)
Would be interesting to see if they could survive further north; or if they
can do well with a shortened dormancy. Do they differ florally from typical
triph's?
Any luck with going back and finding dormant tubers in winter to
transplant?
Bonaventure Magrys
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"Julius Boos"
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aroid-l@mobot.
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12/13/2001
10:44 AM
Please respond
to aroid-l
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To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Arisaema
They ( A. triphyllum) grow wild in S.E. Florida in bogs very near to and
on the W. 'bank' of the intercoastal at Hobe Sound, which is just N. of
Jupiter.?? The ones I examined had LARGE tubers.?? Many Peltandra also!!
Julius
>>Paul Arisema greow wild in SW Fl. ?and in Charlotte County in
particular. ?They are found in somewhat boggy areas but seem notorius for
dying when transplanted as well with carniverous species. J <
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