Can this adelonema be saved?

From: Rosalind Gold <rozgold at pacbell.net> on 2020.01.18 at 01:58:41(24304) Friends: I purchased a healthy adelonema wallisii cutting, barerooted, from a buyer I trust - after potting it, it seemed to be doing OK for about two weeks. I put it in a very large clear plastic bag to keep the humidity up, and then poked holes in the bag, and then finally, took it out of the bag. At that point it still looked fine. About a week and a half ago, all the leaves started to go slightly limp - and then in the course of two days, it ended up looking like the photo I attached (if the photo doesn't go through, let me know, I can resize it). It's not an issue of the soil drying out - while the soil isn't sopping wet, it is still a bit damp. I've had this happen to a few other aroids I've purchased - everything from some philos to some anthuriums. The area that I've put the plants in is indoors by a large glass patio window that gets light filtered through window blinds. It has gotten as cold as 62 degrees F by the window at night, but not for extended periods. I do have other aroids that are doing fine in this area - an aglaonema pictum tricolor, a philo luxurians "Choco", and a monstera. I'm wondering if I might be able to save this by removing all of the leaves except the one that's about to unfurl in the middle, and putting the pot back into a high humidity bag - and moving the pot to a place where it would not get as cold as it does by the window. Or if there's any other way to save the plant - or do just I have something that should end up on the compost heap? Thanks for any advice - I really appreciate everyone on this listserve - I loved the discussion of monstera fruit. -Roz in Los Angeles HTML +More ------=_Part_15433091_1637478983.1579312721285-- ------=_Part_15433095_846598830.1579312721393

From: michael kolaczewski <mjkolaffhbc at sbcglobal.net> on 2020.01.18 at 10:36:56(24305) Greetings Roz, To me this looks like the plant got shocked ( when it was barerooted ? Or perhaps too much humidity ?? ) But after a week or two it shouldn’t be doing this. As for me / all of my aroids ( except aquatic Ones ) are potted in a pine bark / compost or Coir mix ) Looking at the photo / is your plant in a soil potting mix ? The roots might have been affected by Being taken out of the pot and then shipped or mailed to you, and when you repotted it, the watering in and subsequent re watering Plastic bag / May have been too much. Was the plant and the roots wrapped in any damp packing material or just placed into a plastic bag and sent off in a pouch ? Have you lifted it out of the potting medium to see what the roots look like? Removing the wilted roots and leaving the one emerging stem is what I would do. It may not need extra humidity / a warmer location would be good. Watching the soil / media moisture is also Important / as the roots / if they are damaged ( wilted ) won’t be able to function properly. Keep us apprised / I would be happy to send photos of the mix I use here in Chicago to give you a perspective on what works for me here. Cheers Michael HTML +More On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Rosalind Gold wrote: Friends: I purchased a healthy adelonema wallisii cutting, barerooted, from a buyer I trust - after potting it, it seemed to be doing OK for about two weeks. I put it in a very large clear plastic bag to keep the humidity up, and then poked holes in the bag, and then finally, took it out of the bag. At that point it still looked fine. About a week and a half ago, all the leaves started to go slightly limp - and then in the course of two days, it ended up looking like the photo I attached (if the photo doesn't go through, let me know, I can resize it). It's not an issue of the soil drying out - while the soil isn't sopping wet, it is still a bit damp. I've had this happen to a few other aroids I've purchased - everything from some philos to some anthuriums. The area that I've put the plants in is indoors by a large glass patio window that gets light filtered through window blinds. It has gotten as cold as 62 degrees F by the window at night, but not for extended periods. I do have other aroids that are doing fine in this area - an aglaonema pictum tricolor, a philo luxurians "Choco", and a monstera. I'm wondering if I might be able to save this by removing all of the leaves except the one that's about to unfurl in the middle, and putting the pot back into a high humidity bag - and moving the pot to a place where it would not get as cold as it does by the window. Or if there's any other way to save the plant - or do just I have something that should end up on the compost heap? Thanks for any advice - I really appreciate everyone on this listserve - I loved the discussion of monstera fruit. -Roz in Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --Apple-Mail-651F796F-73CA-4994-BA35-552FB899DEDD-- --=============="16963729122598651==

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2020.01.18 at 11:23:43(24306) Roz, Adelomema *detest* root disturbance. It will recover if you follow the excellent advice you received, but it will take time. Best of luck Peter HTML +More On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 18:48 michael kolaczewski, wrote: Greetings Roz, To me this looks like the plant got shocked ( when it was barerooted ? Or perhaps too much humidity ?? ) But after a week or two it shouldn’t be doing this. As for me / all of my aroids ( except aquatic Ones ) are potted in a pine bark / compost or Coir mix ) Looking at the photo / is your plant in a soil potting mix ? The roots might have been affected by Being taken out of the pot and then shipped or mailed to you, and when you repotted it, the watering in and subsequent re watering Plastic bag / May have been too much. Was the plant and the roots wrapped in any damp packing material or just placed into a plastic bag and sent off in a pouch ? Have you lifted it out of the potting medium to see what the roots look like? Removing the wilted roots and leaving the one emerging stem is what I would do. It may not need extra humidity / a warmer location would be good. Watching the soil / media moisture is also Important / as the roots / if they are damaged ( wilted ) won’t be able to function properly. Keep us apprised / I would be happy to send photos of the mix I use here in Chicago to give you a perspective on what works for me here. Cheers Michael On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Rosalind Gold wrote: Friends: I purchased a healthy adelonema wallisii cutting, barerooted, from a buyer I trust - after potting it, it seemed to be doing OK for about two weeks. I put it in a very large clear plastic bag to keep the humidity up, and then poked holes in the bag, and then finally, took it out of the bag. At that point it still looked fine. About a week and a half ago, all the leaves started to go slightly limp - and then in the course of two days, it ended up looking like the photo I attached (if the photo doesn't go through, let me know, I can resize it). It's not an issue of the soil drying out - while the soil isn't sopping wet, it is still a bit damp. I've had this happen to a few other aroids I've purchased - everything from some philos to some anthuriums. The area that I've put the plants in is indoors by a large glass patio window that gets light filtered through window blinds. It has gotten as cold as 62 degrees F by the window at night, but not for extended periods. I do have other aroids that are doing fine in this area - an aglaonema pictum tricolor, a philo luxurians "Choco", and a monstera. I'm wondering if I might be able to save this by removing all of the leaves except the one that's about to unfurl in the middle, and putting the pot back into a high humidity bag - and moving the pot to a place where it would not get as cold as it does by the window. Or if there's any other way to save the plant - or do just I have something that should end up on the compost heap? Thanks for any advice - I really appreciate everyone on this listserve - I loved the discussion of monstera fruit. -Roz in Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --00000000000039f5ab059c684b82-- --==============961097441400153388==

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2020.01.18 at 11:25:16(24307) Roz. Just for the record in habitat many Adelomema grow in heavy mineral soil but you cannot use that in a pot. P. HTML +More On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 19:23 Peter Boyce, wrote: Roz, Adelomema *detest* root disturbance. It will recover if you follow the excellent advice you received, but it will take time. Best of luck Peter On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, 18:48 michael kolaczewski, wrote: Greetings Roz, To me this looks like the plant got shocked ( when it was barerooted ? Or perhaps too much humidity ?? ) But after a week or two it shouldn’t be doing this. As for me / all of my aroids ( except aquatic Ones ) are potted in a pine bark / compost or Coir mix ) Looking at the photo / is your plant in a soil potting mix ? The roots might have been affected by Being taken out of the pot and then shipped or mailed to you, and when you repotted it, the watering in and subsequent re watering Plastic bag / May have been too much. Was the plant and the roots wrapped in any damp packing material or just placed into a plastic bag and sent off in a pouch ? Have you lifted it out of the potting medium to see what the roots look like? Removing the wilted roots and leaving the one emerging stem is what I would do. It may not need extra humidity / a warmer location would be good. Watching the soil / media moisture is also Important / as the roots / if they are damaged ( wilted ) won’t be able to function properly. Keep us apprised / I would be happy to send photos of the mix I use here in Chicago to give you a perspective on what works for me here. Cheers Michael On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Rosalind Gold wrote: Friends: I purchased a healthy adelonema wallisii cutting, barerooted, from a buyer I trust - after potting it, it seemed to be doing OK for about two weeks. I put it in a very large clear plastic bag to keep the humidity up, and then poked holes in the bag, and then finally, took it out of the bag. At that point it still looked fine. About a week and a half ago, all the leaves started to go slightly limp - and then in the course of two days, it ended up looking like the photo I attached (if the photo doesn't go through, let me know, I can resize it). It's not an issue of the soil drying out - while the soil isn't sopping wet, it is still a bit damp. I've had this happen to a few other aroids I've purchased - everything from some philos to some anthuriums. The area that I've put the plants in is indoors by a large glass patio window that gets light filtered through window blinds. It has gotten as cold as 62 degrees F by the window at night, but not for extended periods. I do have other aroids that are doing fine in this area - an aglaonema pictum tricolor, a philo luxurians "Choco", and a monstera. I'm wondering if I might be able to save this by removing all of the leaves except the one that's about to unfurl in the middle, and putting the pot back into a high humidity bag - and moving the pot to a place where it would not get as cold as it does by the window. Or if there's any other way to save the plant - or do just I have something that should end up on the compost heap? Thanks for any advice - I really appreciate everyone on this listserve - I loved the discussion of monstera fruit. -Roz in Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --000000000000c3fd33059c685018-- --============== 32804444139866227==

From: Rosalind Gold <rozgold at pacbell.net> on 2020.01.19 at 03:58:55(24308) Michael -- Thank you so much for such a responsive and thorough answer. The roots in were in damp material - but I think overall, your suggestion of all of the different changes creating problems is right on target. I gave the plant a little bit of water, and it seemed to perk up just a bit, although I don't think several of the leaves are going to be viable. I'm going to take your advice about moving it to a warmer location and removing most of the leaves. I'll definitely keep you posted - I've rescued a few other "shocked" aroids doing what you've suggested. I also think you definitely have a point about my potting medium. I've been looking a place to purchase an aroid-friendly mix, but the only on-line place I've seen charges quite a bit. So if you wouldn't mind sharing photos of what's working for you, that would be very helpful, because it looks like my best bet is to mix my own. Peter - thanks so much for letting me know about how adenolemas grow in the wild, and the fact that they do not like there roots disturbed. Again, I really appreciate both of you sharing your wisdom with me - Good growing and thanks again! Roz, in Los Angeles HTML +More On Saturday, January 18, 2020, 02:50:03 AM PST, michael kolaczewski wrote: Greetings Roz, To me this looks like the plant got shocked ( when it was barerooted ? Or perhaps too much humidity ?? ) But after a week or two it shouldn’t be doing this. As for me / all of my aroids ( except aquatic Ones ) are potted in a pine bark / compost or Coir mix ) Looking at the photo / is your plant in a soil potting mix ? The roots might have been affected by Being taken out of the pot and then shipped or mailed to you, and when you repotted it, the watering in and subsequent re watering Plastic bag / May have been too much. Was the plant and the roots wrapped in any damp packing material or just placed into a plastic bag and sent off in a pouch ? Have you lifted it out of the potting medium to see what the roots look like? Removing the wilted roots and leaving the one emerging stem is what I would do. It may not need extra humidity / a warmer location would be good. Watching the soil / media moisture is also Important / as the roots / if they are damaged ( wilted ) won’t be able to function properly. Keep us apprised / I would be happy to send photos of the mix I use here in Chicago to give you a perspective on what works for me here. Cheers Michael On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Rosalind Gold wrote: Friends: I purchased a healthy adelonema wallisii cutting, barerooted, from a buyer I trust - after potting it, it seemed to be doing OK for about two weeks. I put it in a very large clear plastic bag to keep the humidity up, and then poked holes in the bag, and then finally, took it out of the bag. At that point it still looked fine. About a week and a half ago, all the leaves started to go slightly limp - and then in the course of two days, it ended up looking like the photo I attached (if the photo doesn't go through, let me know, I can resize it). It's not an issue of the soil drying out - while the soil isn't sopping wet, it is still a bit damp. I've had this happen to a few other aroids I've purchased - everything from some philos to some anthuriums. The area that I've put the plants in is indoors by a large glass patio window that gets light filtered through window blinds. It has gotten as cold as 62 degrees F by the window at night, but not for extended periods. I do have other aroids that are doing fine in this area - an aglaonema pictum tricolor, a philo luxurians "Choco", and a monstera. I'm wondering if I might be able to save this by removing all of the leaves except the one that's about to unfurl in the middle, and putting the pot back into a high humidity bag - and moving the pot to a place where it would not get as cold as it does by the window. Or if there's any other way to save the plant - or do just I have something that should end up on the compost heap? Thanks for any advice - I really appreciate everyone on this listserve - I loved the discussion of monstera fruit. -Roz in Los Angeles _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_Part_3079708_856934530.1579406335751-- --==============ƒ71327016607053211==

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