Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong

From: "Peter C. Boyce" <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2015.05.08 at 06:41:12(23312) Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of 2014 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D0899D.0A1D0850 +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D0899D.0A1D0850--

From: "D. Christopher Rogers" <branchiopod at gmail.com> on 2015.05.08 at 16:35:51(23314) Peter, these are all amazing plants!! I need to grow some rheophytes, I think! On 8 May 2015 at 01:41, Peter C. Boyce wrote: HTML +More > Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of > 2014 > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======< 785.864.1714 Crustacean Taxonomist and Ecologist Kansas Biological Survey Kansas University, Higuchi Hall 2101 Constant Avenue, Lawrence, KS 66047-3759 USA http://www.kbs.ku.edu/ http://biosurvey.ku.edu/directory/d-christopher-rogers-0 Affiliate, Invertebrate Zoology, Biodiversity Institute, The University of Kansas http://biodiversity.ku.edu/invertebrate-zoology The Crustacean Society, North American Governor http://www.thecrustaceansociety.org/ Associate Editor, Journal of Crustacean Biology http://www.thecrustaceansociety.org/Jrl-Crustacean-Biology.php Southwest Association of Freshwater Invertebrate Taxonomists SAFIT.ORG HC SVNT CRVSTACEORVM --f46d04426abc110e950515949ffd _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============03423218498543332==--

From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2015.05.11 at 19:44:20(23330) I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). Best, Corey On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, D. Christopher Rogers wrote: HTML +More Peter, these are all amazing plants!! I need to grow some rheophytes, I think! On 8 May 2015 at 01:41, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of 2014 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2015.05.13 at 03:10:22(23335) Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ‘stenophylly’, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed Aridarum, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf Kind Regards Peter HTML +More On 12 May 2015 at 03:44, Corey W wrote: I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). Best, Corey On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, D. Christopher Rogers wrote: Peter, these are all amazing plants!! I need to grow some rheophytes, I think! On 8 May 2015 at 01:41, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of 2014 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Corey W <cewickliffe at gmail.com> on 2015.05.13 at 14:35:36(23339) Thank you Peter! Call me a nerd, but I love learning those definitions and how they apply to ecological niches. I was trained in zoology to recognize traits that hinted at lifestyle, but sadly never took botany that taught me the same. Always happy to find sources to learn from! All these new species are exciting! Corey HTML +More On May 13, 2015 10:12 AM, "Peter Boyce" wrote: Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ‘stenophylly’, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed Aridarum, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf Kind Regards Peter On 12 May 2015 at 03:44, Corey W wrote: I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). Best, Corey On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, D. Christopher Rogers wrote: Peter, these are all amazing plants!! I need to grow some rheophytes, I think! On 8 May 2015 at 01:41, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of 2014 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Jason Hernandez <jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com> on 2015.05.14 at 04:30:33(23341) Speaking of Rheophytes: I have not yet had the opportunity to look up that key to the Cyclanthaceae (thank you for providing the citation), but one of the reasons I asked was because I remember seeing a rheophytic cyclanth in Ecuador, but was not able to determine, from online sources, what genus it could be. Anyone familiar with this? It was on the Pacific slope, about 10-12 cm in height when full grown, white inflorescences, and grew over emersed rocks with roots trailing in the water. Jason Hernandez HTML +More Naturalist-at-Large Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:10:22 +0800 From: Peter Boyce Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong To: Discussion of aroids Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ?stenophylly?, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed *Aridarum*, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf Kind Regards Peter On 12 May 2015 at 03:44, Corey W wrote: > I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the > Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case > for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped > from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the > habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). > > Best, Corey ------=_Part_57358_1049965789.1431577833848-- --==============33163786889514720==

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at gmail.com> on 2015.05.14 at 05:43:43(23342) Hi Cory, Glad to hear that you are enjoying! Very best Peter HTML +More On 13 May 2015 at 22:35, Corey W wrote: Thank you Peter! Call me a nerd, but I love learning those definitions and how they apply to ecological niches. I was trained in zoology to recognize traits that hinted at lifestyle, but sadly never took botany that taught me the same. Always happy to find sources to learn from! All these new species are exciting! Corey On May 13, 2015 10:12 AM, "Peter Boyce" wrote: Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ‘stenophylly’, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed Aridarum, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf Kind Regards Peter On 12 May 2015 at 03:44, Corey W wrote: I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). Best, Corey On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, D. Christopher Rogers wrote: Peter, these are all amazing plants!! I need to grow some rheophytes, I think! On 8 May 2015 at 01:41, Peter C. Boyce wrote: Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong - the BIG surprise at the end of 2014 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -- D. Christopher Rogers ((,///////////=======

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2015.05.14 at 22:11:53(23345) Dear Jason: Actually there appear to be several species that at rheophytes. I have always called them Dichranopygium but I could be wrong. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Jason Hernandez Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:31 PM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong Speaking of Rheophytes: I have not yet had the opportunity to look up that key to the Cyclanthaceae (thank you for providing the citation), but one of the reasons I asked was because I remember seeing a rheophytic cyclanth in Ecuador, but was not able to determine, from online sources, what genus it could be. Anyone familiar with this? It was on the Pacific slope, about 10-12 cm in height when full grown, white inflorescences, and grew over emersed rocks with roots trailing in the water. Jason Hernandez Naturalist-at-Large Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:10:22 +0800 From: Peter Boyce Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong To: Discussion of aroids Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ?stenophylly?, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed *Aridarum*, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf Kind Regards Peter On 12 May 2015 at 03:44, Corey W wrote: > I find the long, thin shape of the leaves reminiscent of some of the > Cryptocorynes that are found in faster flowing water, is this also the case > for this plant? I would guess to reduce drag and not have the plant ripped > from it's spot in fast flow (compared to the wider leaved plant in the > habitat photos, that may find itself taking a trip downstream!). > > Best, Corey

From: Jason Hernandez <jason.hernandez74 at yahoo.com> on 2015.05.16 at 05:00:05(23354) Thank you, Tom! That does look right; this image of Dicranopygium yacu-sisa (there is no "h" in it) looks very much like what I saw in Ecuador. (Not to say mine was the same species, but the genus seems right.) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:14880-Dicranopygium_yacu-sisa-Tabaro.jpg Jason Hernandez HTML +More Naturalist-at-Large Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 22:11:53 +0000 From: Tom Croat Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong To: 'Discussion of aroids' Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Jason: Actually there appear to be several species that at rheophytes. I have always called them Dichranopygium but I could be wrong. Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Jason Hernandez Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:31 PM To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong Speaking of Rheophytes: I have not yet had the opportunity to look up that key to the Cyclanthaceae (thank you for providing the citation), but one of the reasons I asked was because I remember seeing a rheophytic cyclanth in Ecuador, but was not able to determine, from online sources, what genus it could be. Anyone familiar with this? It was on the Pacific slope, about 10-12 cm in height when full grown, white inflorescences, and grew over emersed rocks with roots trailing in the water. Jason Hernandez Naturalist-at-Large Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 11:10:22 +0800 From: Peter Boyce Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Fenestratarum culum P.C.Boyce & S.Y.Wong To: Discussion of aroids Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Cory, Streamlined leaf blades are widely associated rheophytism and with aquatic plants - indeed before the term 'rheophytism' was coined by van Steenis, Ridley, who termed it ?stenophylly?, mentioned the ecological nice and its adaptations in "On the Flora of the Eastern Coast of the Malay Peninsula - [Transactions of the Linnean Society of London. 2nd series, Botany 3(10), 267-408]. By the way, the "wider" leaf blade in the image is an undescribed *Aridarum*, also a rheophyte, and these blades still classify as narrow. This is a nice paper dealing with morphological adaptations associated with rheophytism: http://www.aroid.org/gallery/wong/Rheophytism%20in%20Bornean%20Schismatoglottideae%20-%20%5BSystematic%20Botany%2038%281%29%2032-45%5D%20-%20Wong%202013.pdf ------=_Part_33053_199509601.1431752405217-- --==============099060604924630518==

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