Philodendron hybrid

From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com> on 2014.09.29 at 01:44:11(23114) We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. HTML +More ------=_NextPart_001_00CC_01CFDB4C.3502FF20-- ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01CFDB4C.3502FF20

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2014.10.02 at 00:03:58(23122) Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. --_000_442112D3D8737B41868F544B2D822F87601E32E1MBGMail02moboto_-- --==============34128622208527055==

From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com> on 2014.10.02 at 22:26:00(23126) Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? HTML +More John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. ------=_NextPart_000_020D_01CFDE55.3373D790-- --==============30764646251831423==

From: Brian Williams <pugturd at windstream.net> on 2014.10.03 at 19:37:43(23128) I first saw the plant at both Ron Weeks nursery and Tricia Franks home. Tricia gave me a nice large top cutting off her plant. I then tracked down it had been breed by Bob See. I was unable to find any info on the breeding of the plant or if he had put another name to it. So I sold the plant as Philo Bob See hybrid for many years. If I were to guess. I would think the plant was a hybrid of Philo lacerum or radiatum crossed with something with a narrower leaf maybe subhastatum or such. Just a guess on how it might have been made. HTML +More On 10/2/2014 6:26 PM, John Criswick wrote: Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14 --------------060401060009080503030003-- --==============454589983848144147==

From: "John Criswick" <criswick at spiceisle.com> on 2014.10.04 at 15:19:52(23130) Thanks Brian. That sounds like a pretty educated guess. Was there not also a dieffenbachia ‘Bob See’? Did it not seem to be a forerunner of Dieffenbachia ‘Camille’? BTW Tom, I think there were two versions of Pluto; first the green and then the burgundy form. John. HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Brian Williams Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:38 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid I first saw the plant at both Ron Weeks nursery and Tricia Franks home. Tricia gave me a nice large top cutting off her plant. I then tracked down it had been breed by Bob See. I was unable to find any info on the breeding of the plant or if he had put another name to it. So I sold the plant as Philo Bob See hybrid for many years. If I were to guess. I would think the plant was a hybrid of Philo lacerum or radiatum crossed with something with a narrower leaf maybe subhastatum or such. Just a guess on how it might have been made. On 10/2/2014 6:26 PM, John Criswick wrote: Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01CFDFAB.FB1D8050-- --==============B36316310071451303==

From: brian lee <lbmkjm at yahoo.com> on 2014.10.04 at 18:29:21(23131) Dear All, Aloha. Bob See was a dear friend of the late Betty Ho, of Honolulu. She often visited Bob in Florida and she was a regular traveler to Asia, especially the Philippines. Betty was a close friend of mine and she and I traveled to the Philippines and Brasil with Roberto Burle Marx. On the Luzon trip, we had some incredible adventures, but, I will save that for the future. In the Philippines, we saw many new Philodendron hybrids. Thailand and Vietnam also had some incredible new plants that were imported. I have seen similar hybrids to this plant in Asia, but, I could not say if this was an import from those days. There is that possibility. I was never much into hybrids, so I am not the best judge of these, but, in days past, information was spare and often we collected without prior knowledge of what we all were seeing. I collected under several botanical gardens and most of my material is deposited in those living collections. Aloha, Leland HTML +More On Friday, October 3, 2014 9:37 AM, Brian Williams wrote: I first saw the plant at both Ron Weeks nursery and Tricia Franks home. Tricia gave me a nice large top cutting off her plant. I then tracked down it had been breed by Bob See. I was unable to find any info on the breeding of the plant or if he had put another name to it. So I sold the plant as Philo Bob See hybrid for many years. If I were to guess. I would think the plant was a hybrid of Philo lacerum or radiatum crossed with something with a narrower leaf maybe subhastatum or such. Just a guess on how it might have been made. On 10/2/2014 6:26 PM, John Criswick wrote: Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ------=_Part_399748_24486793.1412447361311-- --==============23111895088212661==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2014.10.05 at 01:46:45(23132) Dear John: I knew of only the green form. I received a piece from Jim Bloom and just recently I was remined of this because we were looking at a living collection that I got from Jim many years ago. Jim was an interesting guy. He started out collecting snakes or frogs and later turned to plants, a great move. He collected lots of things including guns. I guess he has passed because I have not heard about him in years. Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:20 AM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Thanks Brian. That sounds like a pretty educated guess. Was there not also a dieffenbachia ‘Bob See’? Did it not seem to be a forerunner of Dieffenbachia ‘Camille’? BTW Tom, I think there were two versions of Pluto; first the green and then the burgundy form. John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Brian Williams Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:38 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid I first saw the plant at both Ron Weeks nursery and Tricia Franks home. Tricia gave me a nice large top cutting off her plant. I then tracked down it had been breed by Bob See. I was unable to find any info on the breeding of the plant or if he had put another name to it. So I sold the plant as Philo Bob See hybrid for many years. If I were to guess. I would think the plant was a hybrid of Philo lacerum or radiatum crossed with something with a narrower leaf maybe subhastatum or such. Just a guess on how it might have been made. On 10/2/2014 6:26 PM, John Criswick wrote: Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14 --_000_442112D3D8737B41868F544B2D822F87601E3CBCMBGMail02moboto_-- --==============%31138358082735923==

From: Michael Pascall <mickpascall at hotmail.com> on 2014.10.05 at 22:36:37(23133) Heard from a personal friend of Keith Henderson that in the crossing of Hendersons Pride at least 3 distinct  forms resulted . Red flushed new foliage was one . From: Thomas.Croat@mobot.org HTML +More To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 01:46:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John:   I knew of only the green form. I received a piece from Jim  Bloom and just recently I was remined of this because we were looking at a living collection that I got from Jim many years ago. Jim was an interesting guy.  He started out collecting snakes or frogs and later turned to plants, a great move. He collected lots of things including guns. I guess he has passed because I have not heard about him in years.   Tom   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:20 AM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid   Thanks Brian. That sounds like a pretty educated guess.   Was there not also a dieffenbachia �Bob See�?  Did it not seem to be a forerunner of Dieffenbachia �Camille�?   BTW Tom, I think there were two versions of Pluto; first the green and then the burgundy form.       John.   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Brian Williams Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:38 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid    I first saw the plant at both Ron Weeks nursery and Tricia Franks home. Tricia gave me a nice large top cutting off her plant. I then tracked down it had been breed by Bob See. I was unable to find any info on the breeding of the plant or if he had put another name to it. So I sold the plant as Philo Bob See hybrid for many years. If I were to guess. I would think the plant was a hybrid of Philo lacerum or radiatum crossed with something with a narrower leaf maybe subhastatum or such. Just a guess on how it might have been made. On 10/2/2014 6:26 PM, John Criswick wrote: Dear Tom,   Thanks for your response to my post.   Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also.   I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See�s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does?   John Banta, perhaps?   John.   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid   Dear John:  Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron �pluto�?   Tom   From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid   We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida.   Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created.   It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky.   John Criswick. _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8317 - Release Date: 10/03/14   _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_0ad41b6f-d887-4537-9047-633660914265_-- --==============A74569662385205012==

From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2014.10.09 at 01:14:56(23134) Dear John: Have you asked Banta? I am going to see if I still have an email address for John and will copy him here. I remember seeing a collection at Jim Bloom’s place years ago that I labeled Philodendron cf. pluto but I cannot now find an image Tom HTML +More From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 5:26 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear Tom, Thanks for your response to my post. Well having grown Pluto in the 70s and 80s I would say definitely not, despite similarity of leaf shape. I seem to remember Pluto as being of a burgundy hue, also. I know nothing of the parentage of Bob See’s hybrid. I wonder if there is someone who does? John Banta, perhaps? John. From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Tom Croat Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 5:04 PM To: 'Discussion of aroids' Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid Dear John: Was this what was known commercially as Philodendron “pluto”? Tom From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of John Criswick Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:44 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: [Aroid-l] Philodendron hybrid We were recently discussing those plantsmen who have contributed to the richness of our plant scene today, and I mentioned Bob See of South Florida. Here are photos of the hybrid philodendron he created. It is very slowly vining. This specimen was grown in shade but in sun it could vine even more slowly and be more chunky. John Criswick. --_000_442112D3D8737B41868F544B2D822F87601E4B97MBGMail02moboto_-- --==============751548906373118755==

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