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Arum dioscoridis x A. italicum hybrid

From: "Tony Avent" <tony at plantdelights.com> on 2010.07.21 at 21:12:00(21220)
Aroiders:
For those who are into such strange things, I have posted images of our
hybrid of Arum dioscoridis x Arum italicum. We have several, but this is
the best clone..tentative name Arum 'Diosco Duck'
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
_x_italicum_flower3
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
_x_italicum_flower_cut2
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
_x_italicum_flower_cut_001
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
_x_italicum_flower
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdelights.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three
times" - Avent
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From: "J. Agoston" <agoston.janos123 at gmail.com> on 2010.07.22 at 10:08:06(21222)
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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.07.22 at 23:46:43(21233)
Dear Tony,
I looked at the photos of the inflorescence of "�Sauronellia".
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_xSauronellia_Sauromatum _Pinellia_pedatisecta_flowers_cut3?full=1
Until the DNA is examined we cannot talk about a new taxon at the range of a
genus,
it looks rather like a mutation of Sauromatum venosum.
This inflorescence is typical to the genus Sauromatum,
the female zone is free from the spathe, in Pinellia it is adnate (fused) t o
the spathe,
There are pistillodes (sterile female flowers) which are absent in Pinellia
and the male flowers are distant from the female zone,
so we still have a typical Sauromatum inflorescence without any generic
features of Pinellia.
The only thing making it a supposed cross is the curved appendix,
but the inflorescence might be deformed.
I think you should send some juvenile plants to the experts of the Aroideae
subfamily,
the scientific research is necessary.
Best,
Marek Argent
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Avent"
To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:12 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Arum dioscoridis x A. italicum hybrid
> Aroiders:
>
> For those who are into such strange things, I have posted images of our
> hybrid of Arum dioscoridis x Arum italicum. We have several, but this is
> the best clone..tentative name Arum 'Diosco Duck'
> http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cypr ium
> _x_italicum_flower3
>
> http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cypr ium
> _x_italicum_flower_cut2
>
> http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cypr ium
> _x_italicum_flower_cut_001
>
> http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cypr ium
> _x_italicum_flower
>
>
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony@plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
> three
> times" - Avent
>
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From: "Tony Avent" <tony at plantdelights.com> on 2010.07.23 at 11:09:50(21238)
Dear Marek:
Thank you for your comments. I am indeed looking for someone willing to do
some DNA testing, but so far, no one has stepped forward.
Tony Avent
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Plant Delights Nursery @
Juniper Level Botanic Garden
9241 Sauls Road
Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
email tony@plantdelights.com
website http://www.plantdelights.com
phone 919 772-4794
fax 919 772-4752
"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three
times" - Avent
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[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:47 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Arum dioscoridis x A. italicum hybrid
Dear Tony,
I looked at the photos of the inflorescence of "�Sauronellia".
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_xSauronellia_Sauromatum_
Pinellia_pedatisecta_flowers_cut3?full=1
Until the DNA is examined we cannot talk about a new taxon at the range of a
genus, it looks rather like a mutation of Sauromatum venosum.
This inflorescence is typical to the genus Sauromatum, the female zone is
free from the spathe, in Pinellia it is adnate (fused) to the spathe, There
are pistillodes (sterile female flowers) which are absent in Pinellia and
the male flowers are distant from the female zone, so we still have a
typical Sauromatum inflorescence without any generic features of Pinellia.
The only thing making it a supposed cross is the curved appendix, but the
inflorescence might be deformed.
I think you should send some juvenile plants to the experts of the Aroideae
subfamily, the scientific research is necessary.
Best,
Marek Argent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Avent"
To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:12 PM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Arum dioscoridis x A. italicum hybrid
> Aroiders:
>
> For those who are into such strange things, I have posted images of our
> hybrid of Arum dioscoridis x Arum italicum. We have several, but this is
> the best clone..tentative name Arum 'Diosco Duck'
>
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
> _x_italicum_flower3
>
>
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
> _x_italicum_flower_cut2
>
>
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
> _x_italicum_flower_cut_001
>
>
http://www.plantdelights.com/gallery/Aroids/Copy_of_Arum_dioscorides_cyprium
> _x_italicum_flower
>
>
> Tony Avent
> Plant Delights Nursery @
> Juniper Level Botanic Garden
> 9241 Sauls Road
> Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA
> Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F
> Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F
> USDA Hardiness Zone 7b
> email tony@plantdelights.com
> website http://www.plantdelights.com
> phone 919 772-4794
> fax 919 772-4752
> "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least
> three
> times" - Avent
>
> _______________________________________________
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