Contents of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29

From: Scott Radford <s.rad4d at ymail.com> on 2010.04.24 at 08:21:26(20912) Hi Marek good and bad news for you fellow enthusiast. The bad news for you is that it is not a species, but nonetheless the good news is you have argueably the most stunning of the Colocasia family. as for the size take a look at: http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www ..gardensandplants.com/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%2520Black%2520M agic.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant.aspx%3Fplant_ id%3D909&usg=__v666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=600&sz=94&hl =en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=13 5&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26tbs% 3Disch:1 If it gets to that size I think you'll agree you have one won +More derful plant ----- Original Message ---- From: "aroid -l-request@www.gizmoworks.com" www.gizmoworks.com> To: aroid-l@www.gizmow orks.com Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 4:34:35 Subject: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to aroid-l@w ww.gizmoworks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l or, via em ail, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aroid-l-request@ww w.gizmoworks.com You can reach the person managing the list at a roid-l-owner@www.gizmoworks.com When replying, please edit your Subjec t line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Alocasia 'Black Magic' (Marek Argent) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:42:13 +0200 From: "Marek Ar gent" Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia 'Black Magic' To: "D iscussion of aroids" Message-ID: <4FE8FE19402848 EC82B6FA7448B5D42D@UserPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859- 2" Dear Friends, I have bought a small Alocasia with a trade name 'Black Magic'. It is very small now, the largest leaf blade is 14 cm. I append photos of this plant taken with and without flashlight. When pho tographed with flash the leaf surface reflects red. It also reflects red when it is disposed to direct sunlight. There are red cells(?) not visibl e under low light. The adaxial leaf surface is very dark green, almost black, the abaxial is maroon brown, petioles are light brown with lig hter longitudinal dots 1x2 mm. The peltate leaf base wraps the petiole. Do you think it is a species? How large does it grow? 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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.04.25 at 16:31:55(20917) Hello, No, this is definitely an Alocasia. Most of botanists and enthusiasts I asked say it is A. infernalis Marek +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Radford To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Contents of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 Hi Marek good and bad news for you fellow enthusiast. The bad news for you is that it is not a species, but nonetheless the good news is you have argueably the most stunning of the Colocasia family. as for the size take a look at: http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gardensandplants.co m/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%2520Black%2520Magic.jpg&imgrefurl =http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant.aspx%3Fplant_id%3D909&usg=_ _v666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=600&sz=94&hl=en&start=8 &um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=135&prev=/ima ges%3Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26u m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozi lla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1 If it gets to that size I think you'll agree you have one wonderful plant ----- Original Message ---- From: "aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com" www.gizmoworks.com> To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 4:34:35 Subject: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com You can reach the person managing the list at aroid-l-owner@www.gizmoworks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Alocasia 'Black Magic' (Marek Argent) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:42:13 +0200 From: "Marek Argent" Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia 'Black Magic' To: "Discussion of aroids" Message-ID: <4FE8FE19402848EC82B6FA7448B5D42D@UserPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Dear Friends, I have bought a small Alocasia with a trade name 'Black Magic'. It is very small now, the largest leaf blade is 14 cm. I append photos of this plant taken with and without flashlight. When photographed with flash the leaf surface reflects red. It also reflects red when it is disposed to direct sunlight. There are red cells(?) not visible under low light. The adaxial leaf surface is very dark green, almost black, the abaxial is maroon brown, petioles are light brown with lighter longitudinal dots 1x2 mm. The peltate leaf base wraps the petiole. Do you think it is a species? How large does it grow? 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From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2010.04.25 at 16:31:55(20918)  Hello, No, this is definitely an Alocasia. Most of botanists and enthusiasts I asked say it is A. infernalis Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Radford To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Contents of Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 Hi Marek good and bad news for you fellow enthusiast. The bad news for you is that it is not a species, but nonetheless the good news is you have argueably the most stunning of the Colocasia family. as for the size take a look at: http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gardensandplants.com/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%2520Black%2520Magic.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant.aspx%3Fplant_id%3D909&usg=__v666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=600&sz=94&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26u m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1 If it gets to that size I think you'll agree you have one wonderful plant ----- Original Message ---- From: "aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com" www.gizmoworks.com> To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 4:34:35 Subject: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aroid-l-request@www..gizmoworks.com You can reach the person managing the list at aroid-l-owner@www.gizmoworks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Alocasia 'Black Magic' (Marek Argent) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:42:13 +0200 From: "Marek Argent" Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia 'Black Magic' To: "Discussion of aroids" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Dear Friends, I have bought a small Alocasia with a trade name 'Black Magic'. It is very small now, the largest leaf blade is 14 cm. I append photos of this plant taken with and without flashlight. When photographed with flash the leaf surface reflects red. It also reflects red when it is disposed to direct sunlight. There are red cells(?) not visible under low light. The adaxial leaf surface is very dark green, almost black, the abaxial is maroon brown, petioles are light brown with lighter longitudinal dots 1x2 mm. The peltate leaf base wraps the petiole. Do you think it is a species? How large does it grow? I attach photos taken using various lighting. 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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2010.04.26 at 00:52:54(20926) Marek's plant is not Colocasia esculenta; it's an Alocasia called A. infernalis. P. +More On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Scott Radford wrote: > Hi Marek good and bad news for you fellow enthusiast. > > The bad news for you is that it is not a species, but nonetheless the goo d > news is you have argueably the most stunning of the Colocasia family. > > as for the size take a look at: > > http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gardensandplants.c om/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%2520Black%2520Magic.jpg&imgrefurl =http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant.aspx%3Fplant_id%3D909&usg=__v 666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=600&sz=94&hl=en&start=8&um =1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3 Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26u > m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozi lla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1 =http://www.gardensandplants.com/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%25 20Black%2520Magic.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant. aspx%3Fplant_id%3D909&usg=__v666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=60 0&sz=94&hl=en&start=8&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh= 91&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26um%3D1%26hl% 3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:off icial%26tbs%3Disch:1> > > If it gets to that size I think you'll agree you have one wonderful plant > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com" www.gizmoworks.com> > To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com > Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 4:34:35 > Subject: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 > > Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to > aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aroid-l-owner@www.gizmoworks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Alocasia 'Black Magic' (Marek Argent) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:42:13 +0200 > From: "Marek Argent" > > Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia 'Black Magic' > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Message-ID: <4FE8FE19402848EC82B6FA7448B5D42D@UserPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > > Dear Friends, > > I have bought a small Alocasia with a trade name 'Black Magic'. > It is very small now, the largest leaf blade is 14 cm. > I append photos of this plant taken with and without flashlight. > When photographed with flash the leaf surface reflects red. > It also reflects red when it is disposed to direct sunlight. > There are red cells(?) not visible under low light. > > The adaxial leaf surface is very dark green, almost black, > the abaxial is maroon brown, petioles are light brown > with lighter longitudinal dots 1x2 mm. > The peltate leaf base wraps the petiole. > > Do you think it is a species? 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From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2010.04.26 at 00:52:54(20927) Marek's plant is not Colocasia esculenta; it's an Alocasia called A. infernalis. P. HTML +More On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Scott Radford wrote: > Hi Marek good and bad news for you fellow enthusiast. > > The bad news for you is that it is not a species, but nonetheless the goo d > news is you have argueably the most stunning of the Colocasia family. > > as for the size take a look at: > > http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gardensandplants.c om/images/plants/Colocasia%2520esculenta%2520Black%2520Magic.jpg&imgrefurl =http://www.gardensandplants.com/uk/plant.aspx%3Fplant_id%3D909&usg=__v 666AqmcgqEhhJfNXT47GBGilq8=&h=405&w=600&sz=94&hl=en&start=8&um =1&itbs=1&tbnid=w1jbKf98aV6PUM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3 Fq%3Dcolocasia%2Bblack%2Bmagic%26u > m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dh4F%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozi lla:en-GB:official%26tbs%3Disch:1 > > If it gets to that size I think you'll agree you have one wonderful plant > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com" www.gizmoworks.com> > To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com > Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 4:34:35 > Subject: Aroid-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 29 > > Send Aroid-L mailing list submissions to > aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aroid-l-request@www.gizmoworks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aroid-l-owner@www.gizmoworks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Aroid-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Alocasia 'Black Magic' (Marek Argent) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:42:13 +0200 > From: "Marek Argent" > > Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia 'Black Magic' > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Message-ID: <4FE8FE19402848EC82B6FA7448B5D42D@UserPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > > Dear Friends, > > I have bought a small Alocasia with a trade name 'Black Magic'. > It is very small now, the largest leaf blade is 14 cm. > I append photos of this plant taken with and without flashlight. > When photographed with flash the leaf surface reflects red. > It also reflects red when it is disposed to direct sunlight. > There are red cells(?) not visible under low light. > > The adaxial leaf surface is very dark green, almost black, > the abaxial is maroon brown, petioles are light brown > with lighter longitudinal dots 1x2 mm. > The peltate leaf base wraps the petiole. > > Do you think it is a species? 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