Unknown Philodendrons

From: "Lengyel Ferenc" <Ferenc.Lengyel at aok.pte.hu> on 2010.03.24 at 13:34:01(20760) Hello, I have received some plants from Ecuagenera. Some seem to be the correct species, others not. The two plants that really disappointed me are Philodendron stenolobum and Philodendron linnaei. Or rather not. They are not Ph. stenolobum and linnaei. I have made some photoas of them. Could anybody tell me what they might be? The Ph stenolobum seems to be Ph. acutatum or sagittifolium or a similar species. Photos (not too good quality): the plant: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132675/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ the leaf blade: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459913144/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132891/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ junction of stem and petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132967/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ The plant bought as Ph. linnaei has leaf blades different from those of Ph. linnaei: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459185569/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559451437/ The junction of stem and petiole looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459992392/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559451437/ I will make more photos when they will be estabkished and gro new leaves. Ferenc +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Lengyel Ferenc" <Ferenc.Lengyel at aok.pte.hu> on 2010.03.24 at 13:34:01(20761) Hello, I have received some plants from Ecuagenera. Some seem to be the correct species, others not. The two plants that really disappointed me are Philodendron stenolobum and Philodendron linnaei. Or rather not. They are not Ph. stenolobum and linnaei. I have made some photoas of them. Could anybody tell me what they might be? The Ph stenolobum seems to be Ph. acutatum or sagittifolium or a similar species. Photos (not too good quality): the plant: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132675/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ the leaf blade: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459913144/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132891/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ junction of stem and petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132967/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559426153/ The plant bought as Ph. linnaei has leaf blades different from those of Ph. linnaei: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459185569/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559451437/ The junction of stem and petiole looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459992392/sizes/l/in/set-72157623559451437/ I will make more photos when they will be estabkished and gro new leaves. Ferenc +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2010.03.27 at 19:14:43(20775) Dear Ferenc: Do you just have one species featured here? It is most likely some new species. If I can succeed in downloading good images I will key it out but I may need an inflorescence so if it ever flowers shoot it again. Which of your names is your family name and which is your given name? Tom +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Lengyel Ferenc Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:34 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philodendrons Hello, I have received some plants from Ecuagenera. Some seem to be the correct species, others not. The two plants that really disappointed me are Philodendron stenolobum and Philodendron linnaei. Or rather not. They are not Ph. stenolobum and linnaei. I have made some photoas of them. Could anybody tell me what they might be? The Ph stenolobum seems to be Ph. acutatum or sagittifolium or a similar species. Photos (not too good quality): the plant: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132675/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ the leaf blade: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459913144/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132891/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ junction of stem and petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132967/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ The plant bought as Ph. linnaei has leaf blades different from those of Ph. linnaei: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459185569/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559451437/ The junction of stem and petiole looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459992392/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559451437/ I will make more photos when they will be estabkished and gro new leaves. Ferenc _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2010.03.27 at 19:14:43(20776) Dear Ferenc: Do you just have one species featured here? It is most likely some new species. If I can succeed in downloading good images I will key it out but I may need an inflorescence so if it ever flowers shoot it again. Which of your names is your family name and which is your given name? Tom +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Lengyel Ferenc Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:34 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philodendrons Hello, I have received some plants from Ecuagenera. Some seem to be the correct species, others not. The two plants that really disappointed me are Philodendron stenolobum and Philodendron linnaei. Or rather not. They are not Ph. stenolobum and linnaei. I have made some photoas of them. Could anybody tell me what they might be? The Ph stenolobum seems to be Ph. acutatum or sagittifolium or a similar species. Photos (not too good quality): the plant: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132675/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ the leaf blade: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459913144/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132891/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ junction of stem and petiole: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459132967/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559426153/ The plant bought as Ph. linnaei has leaf blades different from those of Ph. linnaei: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459185569/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559451437/ The junction of stem and petiole looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/4459992392/sizes/l/in/set-72157623 559451437/ I will make more photos when they will be estabkished and gro new leaves. Ferenc _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Ferenc Lengyel <feri.lengyel at gmail.com> on 2010.03.29 at 13:44:12(20788) Dear Dr. Croat, I'm sorry, my pics were a bit confusing. I featured two different species. One of them was bought as Ph. stenolobum, and the other one as Ph. linnaei. Now I have reorganised my flickr photostream, and I made two sets: Philodendron sp. 1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/sets/72157623726676382/ and Philodendron sp. 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/sets/72157623726780950/ There is a description for both sets and a small description for each picture. I have bought two more Philodendron species and some Anthurium species. I will upload photos and show them on this mailing list when they establish themselves and begin to grow new leaves. Regarding my name, my family name is Lengyel, and my given name is Ferenc. I must have made a mistake when I registered to Aroid-L. Sorry for the confusion. I don't know how to fix it as in the name box there is just Ferenc. Anyway, I have changed my E-mail address from my official, Hungarian address to a gmail based one. Ferenc +More --00c09f7d633e4f0efe0482f0b524 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============`60951916480358225==--

From: Ferenc Lengyel <feri.lengyel at gmail.com> on 2010.03.29 at 13:44:12(20789) Dear Dr. Croat, I'm sorry, my pics were a bit confusing. I featured two different species. One of them was bought as Ph. stenolobum, and the other one as Ph. linnaei. Now I have reorganised my flickr photostream, and I made two sets: Philodendron sp. 1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/sets/72157623726676382/ and Philodendron sp. 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lengyelf/sets/72157623726780950/ There is a description for both sets and a small description for each picture. I have bought two more Philodendron species and some Anthurium species. I will upload photos and show them on this mailing list when they establish themselves and begin to grow new leaves. Regarding my name, my family name is Lengyel, and my given name is Ferenc. I must have made a mistake when I registered to Aroid-L. Sorry for the confusion. I don't know how to fix it as in the name box there is just Ferenc. Anyway, I have changed my E-mail address from my official, Hungarian address to a gmail based one. Ferenc HTML +More --00c09f7d633e4f0efe0482f0b524----==============`60951916480358225=

From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2010.04.06 at 20:30:56(20796) Dear Ferenc: This is pretty disappointing because it does not tell you much. A. madisonianum doesn't even occur in South America. Anthurium coriaceum occurs only in Brazil (Do you have images of all of the above?). I will help you with these things as time goes on. Tom +More ________________________________ From: aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@www.gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Ferenc Lengyel Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:51 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philodendrons Well, I wrote to Ecuagenera to ask about the sites where the mother plants of the plants I ordered were collected. I received the following data: Anthurium clavigerum comes from the Amazon side and altitud 800 msnm. Anthurium coriaceum and coriaceum 6 comes from the Amazon side and altitud 1000 msnm. Anthurium flavolineatum grows at 1200 msnm and is from Amazon side. Anthurium madisonianum grows at 1000 msnm from Amazon side. Anthurium peltigerum cames frot the coast region and a altitud 500 msnm. Anthurium truncicolum from the Amazon side and 800 msnm. Philodendron acutifolium of 1000 msnm from Amazon basing. Philodendron barrosoanum giganteum comes from the Amazonia with at an altitud of 800 msnm. Philodendron linnaei with at an altitud of 800 msnm form the Amazonia. Philodendron stenolobum 1000 msnm from Amazon side. No region or country information. Of these plants Anthurium flavolineatum, A. madisonianum and A. peltigerum seems to be the correct species (though I can only use the Internet to identify them) and I suspect Anthurium clavigerum and A. truncicolum to be correct too, though they are very young. I willmake photos when they get a little bigger. But none of the philodendrons seems to be labelled correctly. The good thing is that though most of them arrived in very poor condition, they all seem to do well and some have already began to grow. We'll see what they really are. Ferenc ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAD5C8.0F556351 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============52310840971740005==--

From: Ferenc Lengyel <feri.lengyel at gmail.com> on 2010.04.08 at 05:54:48(20805) Dear Tom, I want to wait until my plants grow some new leaves before making better images and I'm about to buy a new camera. I checked my current pics and the y do not tell much more in full size then on flickr as my current camera make s very noisy photos. I will take pics of all the plants I bought and send the m to you. Maybe in a few months. Ferenc +More On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Tom Croat wrote: > Dear Ferenc: > > > > This is pretty disappointing because it does not tell you > much. A. madisonianum doesn’t even occur in South America. Anthurium > coriaceum occurs only in Brazil (Do you have images of all of the above?) .. > I will help you with these things as time goes on. > > > > Tom > --00c09ffb5200ff2db00483b35094 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --==============78185691455029532==--

From: Ferenc Lengyel <feri.lengyel at gmail.com> on 2010.04.08 at 05:54:48(20806) Dear Tom, I want to wait until my plants grow some new leaves before making better images and I'm about to buy a new camera. I checked my current pics and they do not tell much more in full size then on flickr as my current camera makes very noisy photos. I will take pics of all the plants I bought and send them to you. Maybe in a few months. Ferenc HTML +More On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Tom Croat wrote: Dear Ferenc: This is pretty disappointing because it does not tell you much. A. madisonianum doesn’t even occur in South America. Anthurium coriaceum occurs only in Brazil (Do you have images of all of the above?). I will help you with these things as time goes on. Tom --00c09ffb5200ff2db00483b35094----==============78185691455029532=

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