corrections, book on ''chubas''

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2010.01.05 at 13:57:26(20432) Dear Friends, Below are comments on the obvious errors I see (not many, it is a GOOD book!) in the small publication by the Brooklyn Botanic Garden--"Buried Treasures, Tasty Tubers of the World". Let`s start at the beginning of the book! 1) The very first photo one page in is of leaves captioned as belonging to Alocasia macrorrhiza.   They are in fact the leaves of Colocasia esculenta = taro/dasheen/eddoes. 2) On pg. 7 is a photo of many roundish tubers/rhizomes/corms, the caption says they are of Xanthosoma sagittifolium.   I am 99.9% certain that these are from Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorum'' or eddoes.  These same tubers are shown in the background on the photo on pg. 107. Note---To be 100% certain of the I.D`s, I`d have to cook and eat these (and other) tubers/roots! 3) On pg. 10 is a photo of tubers/roots, the caption says that are from A. macrorrhiza.  I am 99.9% certain that these represent the TRUE swollen roots (they are not rhizomes, corms or tubers) of Cassava/Manioc/Yucca/Tapioca (see pg. 52 for a good account on this plant.) 4) on pg. 22 is the ''biggie''.   They picture and correctly label this plant as-- "Alocasia macrorrhiza---Giant Taro/Elephant`s ear/Ape (Hawaiian)''.  My problem is that they say that the underground off-shoot tubers/rhizomes are great when cooked and used as food, but I have NEVER heard or read of this anywhere.   Much of their report on the edibility/preparation of this plant is inaccurate, and they say that the photo on pg. 10 is of tubers from this plant, this is incorrect (see #3 above). In Deni Bown`s book ("Aroids, Plants of the Arum Family", GET A COPY IF YOU DON`T have one, GREAT book!!), she refers to these small structures produced by this aroid as  "cormels'', and says that they tend to be coarse and acrid, and that it is sections of the main rhizome that are peeled, prepared/cooked and eaten.  Recently a friend visited Fiji, and was treated to a meal of this by the village chief.  He photographed the prep./cooking of the portions of the main rhizome, and reported that it was good eating.  His account MAY become an article in a forthcoming issue of the IAS`s Aroideana.  I read a very few other minor errors and some glaring ommisions, all which I ignore. All in all, it is a great little book, many seemingly GOOD sources for plants, etc. from dealers/nurseries at the back.  At the price, I highly recomend you purchase a copy (e-bay, or directly from Brooklyn Garden, $9.95.). Julius HTML +More   --_4ed89b0b-de23-4377-9f89-93077c0baf8b_----==============w50513061735776545=

From: Kyle Baker <kylefletcherbaker at yahoo.com> on 2010.01.06 at 15:27:40(20438) I've enjoyed the posts, I went to Amazon and purchased a used like new copy for $3.49 + $3 shipping, I look forward to reading it and adding it to my library. Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN Maine Zone 5 HTML +More Moderator, Houseplantluvers@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/houseplantluvers --- On Tue, 1/5/10, ju-bo@msn.com wrote: From: ju-bo@msn.com Subject: [Aroid-l] corrections, book on ''chubas'' To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:57 AM Dear Friends, Below are comments on the obvious errors I see (not many, it is a GOOD book!) in the small publication by the Brooklyn Botanic Garden--"Buried Treasures, Tasty Tubers of the World". Let`s start at the beginning of the book! 1) The very first photo one page in is of leaves captioned as belonging to Alocasia macrorrhiza. They are in fact the leaves of Colocasia esculenta = taro/dasheen/eddoes. 2) On pg. 7 is a photo of many roundish tubers/rhizomes/corms, the caption says they are of Xanthosoma sagittifolium. I am 99.9% certain that these are from Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorum'' or eddoes. These same tubers are shown in the background on the photo on pg. 107. Note---To be 100% certain of the I.D`s, I`d have to cook and eat these (and other) tubers/roots! 3) On pg. 10 is a photo of tubers/roots, the caption says that are from A. macrorrhiza. I am 99.9% certain that these represent the TRUE swollen roots (they are not rhizomes, corms or tubers) of Cassava/Manioc/Yucca/Tapioca (see pg. 52 for a good account on this plant.) 4) on pg. 22 is the ''biggie''. They picture and correctly label this plant as-- "Alocasia macrorrhiza---Giant Taro/Elephant`s ear/Ape (Hawaiian)''. My problem is that they say that the underground off-shoot tubers/rhizomes are great when cooked and used as food, but I have NEVER heard or read of this anywhere. Much of their report on the edibility/preparation of this plant is inaccurate, and they say that the photo on pg. 10 is of tubers from this plant, this is incorrect (see #3 above). In Deni Bown`s book ("Aroids, Plants of the Arum Family", GET A COPY IF YOU DON`T have one, GREAT book!!), she refers to these small structures produced by this aroid as "cormels'', and says that they tend to be coarse and acrid, and that it is sections of the main rhizome that are peeled, prepared/cooked and eaten. Recently a friend visited Fiji, and was treated to a meal of this by the village chief. He photographed the prep./cooking of the portions of the main rhizome, and reported that it was good eating. His account MAY become an article in a forthcoming issue of the IAS`s Aroideana. I read a very few other minor errors and some glaring ommisions, all which I ignore. All in all, it is a great little book, many seemingly GOOD sources for plants, etc. from dealers/nurseries at the back. At the price, I highly recomend you purchase a copy (e-bay, or directly from Brooklyn Garden, $9.95.). Julius -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-164768283-1262791660=:1333----==============Q35843533978111657=

From: Riley2362 at aol.com on 2010.01.07 at 11:50:41(20442) Thanks for Julius' annotations and corrections to the book. I purchased a couple of copies at BestBargianBook.com for $.73 plus the $3.99 shipping. Michael In a message dated 1/7/2010 1:26:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, kylefletcherbaker@yahoo.com writes: HTML +More I've enjoyed the posts, I went to Amazon and purchased a used like new copy for $3.49 + $3 shipping, I look forward to reading it and adding it to my library. Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN Maine Zone 5 Moderator, Houseplantluvers@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/houseplantluvers --- On Tue, 1/5/10, ju-bo@msn.com wrote: From: ju-bo@msn.com Subject: [Aroid-l] corrections, book on ''chubas'' To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:57 AM Dear Friends, Below are comments on the obvious errors I see (not many, it is a GOOD book!) in the small publication by the Brooklyn Botanic Garden--"Buried Treasures, Tasty Tubers of the World". Let`s start at the beginning of the book! 1) The very first photo one page in is of leaves captioned as belonging to Alocasia macrorrhiza. They are in fact the leaves of Colocasia esculenta = taro/dasheen/eddoes. 2) On pg. 7 is a photo of many roundish tubers/rhizomes/corms, the caption says they are of Xanthosoma sagittifolium. I am 99.9% certain that these are from Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorum'' or eddoes. These same tubers are shown in the background on the photo on pg. 107. Note---To be 100% certain of the I.D`s, I`d have to cook and eat these (and other) tubers/roots! 3) On pg. 10 is a photo of tubers/roots, the caption says that are from A. macrorrhiza. I am 99.9% certain that these represent the TRUE swollen roots (they are not rhizomes, corms or tubers) of Cassava/Manioc/Yucca/Tapioca (see pg. 52 for a good account on this plant.) 4) on pg. 22 is the ''biggie''. They picture and correctly label this plant as-- "Alocasia macrorrhiza---Giant Taro/Elephant`s ear/Ape (Hawaiian)''. My problem is that they say that the underground off-shoot tubers/rhizomes are great when cooked and used as food, but I have NEVER heard or read of this anywhere. Much of their report on the edibility/preparation of this plant is inaccurate, and they say that the photo on pg. 10 is of tubers from this plant, this is incorrect (see #3 above). In Deni Bown`s book ("Aroids, Plants of the Arum Family", GET A COPY IF YOU DON`T have one, GREAT book!!), she refers to these small structures produced by this aroid as "cormels'', and says that they tend to be coarse and acrid, and that it is sections of the main rhizome that are peeled, prepared/cooked and eaten. Recently a friend visited Fiji, and was treated to a meal of this by the village chief. He photographed the prep./cooking of the portions of the main rhizome, and reported that it was good eating. His account MAY become an article in a forthcoming issue of the IAS`s Aroideana. I read a very few other minor errors and some glaring ommisions, all which I ignore. All in all, it is a great little book, many seemingly GOOD sources for plants, etc. from dealers/nurseries at the back. At the price, I highly recomend you purchase a copy (e-bay, or directly from Brooklyn Garden, $9.95.). Julius -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------------------------1262865041----==============v54514737183833714=

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2010.01.07 at 13:17:59(20443) Dear Kyle, Thanks for the note! I hope that you get as much ''fun'' out of this book as I did, and also manage to grow and use some of the plants listed which will provide GREAT eating tubers in the cold of further North! Good Growing, Julius HTML +More Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 07:27:40 -0800 From: kylefletcherbaker@yahoo.com To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] corrections, book on ''chubas'' I've enjoyed the posts, I went to Amazon and purchased a used like new copy for $3.49 + $3 shipping, I look forward to reading it and adding it to my library. Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN Maine Zone 5 Moderator, Houseplantluvers@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/houseplantluvers --- On Tue, 1/5/10, ju-bo@msn.com <ju-bo@msn.com> wrote: From: ju-bo@msn.com <ju-bo@msn.com> Subject: [Aroid-l] corrections, book on ''chubas'' To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:57 AM Dear Friends, Below are comments on the obvious errors I see (not many, it is a GOOD book!) in the small publication by the Brooklyn Botanic Garden--"Buried Treasures, Tasty Tubers of the World". Let`s start at the beginning of the book! 1) The very first photo one page in is of leaves captioned as belonging to Alocasia macrorrhiza.   They are in fact the leaves of Colocasia esculenta = taro/dasheen/eddoes. 2) On pg. 7 is a photo of many roundish tubers/rhizomes/corms, the caption says they are of Xanthosoma sagittifolium.   I am 99.9% certain that these are from Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorum'' or eddoes.  These same tubers are shown in the background on the photo on pg. 107. Note---To be 100% certain of the I.D`s, I`d have to cook and eat these (and other) tubers/roots! 3) On pg. 10 is a photo of tubers/roots, the caption says that are from A. macrorrhiza.  I am 99.9% certain that these represent the TRUE swollen roots (they are not rhizomes, corms or tubers) of Cassava/Manioc/Yucca/Tapioca (see pg. 52 for a good account on this plant.) 4) on pg. 22 is the ''biggie''.   They picture and correctly label this plant as-- "Alocasia macrorrhiza---Giant Taro/Elephant`s ear/Ape (Hawaiian)''.  My problem is that they say that the underground off-shoot tubers/rhizomes are great when cooked and used as food, but I have NEVER heard or read of this anywhere.   Much of their report on the edibility/preparation of this plant is inaccurate, and they say that the photo on pg. 10 is of tubers from this plant, this is incorrect (see #3 above). In Deni Bown`s book ("Aroids, Plants of the Arum Family", GET A COPY IF YOU DON`T have one, GREAT book!!), she refers to these small structures produced by this aroid as  "cormels'', and says that they tend to be coarse and acrid, and that it is sections of the main rhizome that are peeled, prepared/cooked and eaten.  Recently a friend visited Fiji, and was treated to a meal of this by the village chief.  He photographed the prep./cooking of the portions of the main rhizome, and reported that it was good eating.  His account MAY become an article in a forthcoming issue of the IAS`s Aroideana.  I read a very few other minor errors and some glaring ommisions, all which I ignore. All in all, it is a great little book, many seemingly GOOD sources for plants, etc. from dealers/nurseries at the back.  At the price, I highly recomend you purchase a copy (e-bay, or directly from Brooklyn Garden, $9.95.). Julius   -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --_7a42b5bc-b2b2-425a-a33b-421410142364_----==============f15262062871554069=

From: "mossytrail" <mossytrail at hctc.com> on 2010.01.08 at 01:53:11(20447) I find errors in books with some frequency. I have in fact mentioned such in both of my past Aroideana articles. Incidentally, yuca, referring to manioc or cassava, is spelled with only one "c." Yucca with two "c's" is the southwestern desert plant with the spiky leaves. > > > Dear Friends, > > Below are comments on the obvious errors I see (not many, > it is a GOOD book!) in the small publication by the > Brooklyn Botanic Garden--"Buried Treasures, Tasty Tubers > of the World". Let`s start at the beginning of the book! > > 1) The very first photo one page in is of leaves captioned > as belonging to Alocasia macrorrhiza. They are in fact > the leaves of Colocasia esculenta = taro/dasheen/eddoes. > > 2) On pg. 7 is a photo of many roundish > tubers/rhizomes/corms, the caption says they are of > Xanthosoma sagittifolium. I am 99.9% certain that these > are from Colocasia esculenta ''antiquorum'' or eddoes. > These same tubers are shown in the background on the photo > on pg. 107. Note---To be 100% certain of the I.D`s, I`d > have to cook and eat these (and other) tubers/roots! > > 3) On pg. 10 is a photo of tubers/roots, the caption says > that are from A. macrorrhiza. I am 99.9% certain that > these represent the TRUE swollen roots (they are not > rhizomes, corms or tubers) of Cassava/Manioc/Yucca/Tapioca > (see pg. 52 for a good account on this plant.) > > 4) on pg. 22 is the ''biggie''. They picture and > correctly label this plant as-- "Alocasia > macrorrhiza---Giant Taro/Elephant`s ear/Ape (Hawaiian)''. > My problem is that they say that the underground off-shoot > tubers/rhizomes are great when cooked and used as food, > but I have NEVER heard or read of this anywhere. Much of > their report on the edibility/preparation of this plant is > inaccurate, and they say that the photo on pg. 10 is of > tubers from this plant, this is incorrect (see #3 above). > In Deni Bown`s book ("Aroids, Plants of the Arum Family", > GET A COPY IF YOU DON`T have one, GREAT book!!), she > refers to these small structures produced by this aroid as > "cormels'', and says that they tend to be coarse and > acrid, and that it is sections of the main rhizome that > are peeled, prepared/cooked and eaten. Recently a friend > visited Fiji, and was treated to a meal of this by the > village chief. He photographed the prep./cooking of the > portions of the main rhizome, and reported that it was > good eating. His account MAY become an article in a > forthcoming issue of the IAS`s Aroideana. > > I read a very few other minor errors and some glaring > ommisions, all which I ignore. All in all, it is a great > little book, many seemingly GOOD sources for plants, etc. > from dealers/nurseries at the back. At the price, I > highly recomend you purchase a copy (e-bay, or directly > from Brooklyn Garden, $9.95.). > > Julius +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: piaba <piabinha at yahoo.com> on 2010.01.08 at 18:34:18(20449) all i ever needed to know about chubas i learned on youchube (who needs julius?) =======tsuh yang _______________________________________________ +More Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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