Arisaema id?

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2009.06.21 at 04:09:50(19425) _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com +More http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l ---1463802623-132574072-1245557390=:19078--

From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter at xs4all.nl> on 2009.06.21 at 06:05:10(19426) Arisaema fimbriatum (var. bakerianum). Cheers, Wilbert +More > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] Namens Steve Marak > Verzonden: zondag 21 juni 2009 6:10 > Aan: Aroid list > Onderwerp: [Aroid-l] Arisaema id? > > Would the arisaema experts care to weigh in on the plant in > the two attached pictures? The leaflets on the leaf shown are > about 8-10 cm long, for scale. > > I received it (them) without a species name. > > I've done some looking, of course, and have my ideas, but > prefer to just offer the pictures and let those who know pronounce. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Peter Boyce <phymatarum at googlemail.com> on 2009.06.21 at 09:04:34(19429) Hi Steve, I am by no means an good at id-ing Arisaema, but this looks to be A. fimbriatum from Langkawi, NW Peninsular Malaysia or its susbp. Bakerianum from the far south of Thailand. Best wishes Pete +More -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Steve Marak Sent: 21 June 2009 12:10 To: Aroid list Subject: [Aroid-l] Arisaema id? Would the arisaema experts care to weigh in on the plant in the two attached pictures? The leaflets on the leaf shown are about 8-10 cm long, for scale. I received it (them) without a species name. I've done some looking, of course, and have my ideas, but prefer to just offer the pictures and let those who know pronounce. Thanks, Steve -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Gusman Guy <ggusman at ulb.ac.be> on 2009.06.21 at 10:27:01(19431) Dear Steve, Wonderful plant! It looks like Arisaema lihengianum, a species I never saw living plants of. I know it only from the diagnosis of Murata et al. It is a Chinese species of section ANOMALA. Described with a red-brown rhizome, one 3-foliolate leaf only and no pseudostem. Any idea of the geographical origin of your plant? Best wishes. Guy +More >Would the arisaema experts care to weigh in on the plant in the two >attached pictures? The leaflets on the leaf shown are about 8-10 cm long, >for scale. > >I received it (them) without a species name. > >I've done some looking, of course, and have my ideas, but prefer to just >offer the pictures and let those who know pronounce. > >Thanks, > >Steve > >-- Steve Marak >-- samarak@gizmoworks.com > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Alan Galloway" <alan_galloway at bellsouth.net> on 2009.06.21 at 11:25:30(19432) Steve, Your Arisaema plants are: Arisaema fimbriatum var. bakerianum, which I think is one of the most beautiful species in the whole genera! Alan +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Marak" To: "Aroid list" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Arisaema id? > Would the arisaema experts care to weigh in on the plant in the two > attached pictures? The leaflets on the leaf shown are about 8-10 cm long, > for scale. > > I received it (them) without a species name. > > I've done some looking, of course, and have my ideas, but prefer to just > offer the pictures and let those who know pronounce. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2009.06.21 at 20:23:06(19435) Hello, It looks like A. fimbriatum, but the spathe colour is a little deceiving, maybe it's a variety or subspecies. In many Arisaema species the colour of the spathe is variable - in A. triphyllum, consanguineum, candidissimum, amurense and other. http://www.wschowa.com/abrimaal/araceum/arisaema/fimbr.htm Marek Argent +More ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Marak" To: "Aroid list" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:09 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Arisaema id? > Would the arisaema experts care to weigh in on the plant in the two > attached pictures? The leaflets on the leaf shown are about 8-10 cm long, > for scale. > > I received it (them) without a species name. > > I've done some looking, of course, and have my ideas, but prefer to just > offer the pictures and let those who know pronounce. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > -- Steve Marak > -- samarak@gizmoworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-L mailing list > Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Nie znaleziono wirusa w tej wiadomo¶ci przychodz±cej. Sprawdzone przez AVG - www.avg.com Wersja: 8.5.339 / Baza danych wirusów: 270.12.81/2189 - Data wydania: 06/20/09 06:15:00 _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Steve Marak <samarak at gizmoworks.com> on 2009.06.22 at 20:08:16(19440) Thanks, Wilbert, Pete, Alan, Marek, Edna, Guy, and anyone I've missed who contributed opinions. I had tentatively, with web searching and a lot of reading in Guy's book, concluded A. fimbriatum; I did have a little information I didn't give the rest of you, firstly that the provenance is Thailand (or so I was told, and I have no reason to think otherwise). But I acquired these as one of those last-day-of-show deals, where I was looking at one thing and was offered, as an inducement to close the deal, a little box full of small unidentified tubers, obviously things that didn't sell because they were so small. It looked to me like there were several species in the box, so I took it - I don't mind growing on small stuff, or a mystery plant or two. There were at least two small Amorphophallus which have not yet flowered, and lots of this Arisaema, or at least the leaves are consistent - only a few have flowered at this point, and while there's some variation all are similar to the photos I sent. I've assumed it wasn't hardy, so all plants have been kept in the greenhouse. They did endure a few days (about 72 contiguous hours) of 0 C temperatures in late January, when a catastrophic ice storm took out power in NW Arkansas, apparently without damage. They are deciduous, and none has so far produced more than one trifoliate leaf, and they tolerate a fairly wide range of lighting. The one in the picture gets several hours up at 3000 fc or so, others at most half that intensity, and they all look about the same. I don't recall the small ones looking rhizomatous, but then they were very small - mostly 1 cm or less when I got them - and I haven't looked since I potted them up. I'll knock one of the big ones out of its pot and have a look. Steve +More On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Alan Galloway wrote: > Steve, > > Your Arisaema plants are: > Arisaema fimbriatum var. bakerianum, which I think is one of the most > beautiful species in the whole genera! > > Alan -- Steve Marak -- samarak@gizmoworks.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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