Acorus

From: Mike Bordelon <BORDELON.MIKE at NMNH.SI.EDU> on 1997.11.04 at 22:26:56(1576) Thanks to those that checked up on Acorus tatarinowii for me. Looking in the Flora of China by Hen Li, A. gramineus has leaves less than 6mm and A. tatarinowii has leaves greater than 7mm. Is the width of a leaf a valid justification to name a species even if all else is the same? Growing conditions can have a great effect on the size of a plant. Mike Bordelon +More Botany Greenhouse Smithsonian Institution

From: "Dr. Guanghua Zhu" <gzhu at LEHMANN.mobot.org> on 1997.11.04 at 23:40:00(1577) Dear Mike, The width of leaf is very important in the taxonomy of Acorus. However, it can not be used as the only character to name a new species in this case. Yes, the character is somewhat plastic, but it is usually good enough to seperate the two species mentioned. Acorus differs from the other by a very short spathe, which is usually less than twice of the length of the spadix. The spathe of Acorus tatarinowii is a lot longer. The spathe character is the key to tell these two species. There are three new names have been published in the genus since the publication of the Chinese Flora of China. But I personally think there are only three species should be recognized in the genus. Cheers, Guanghua > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:30:56 -0600 +More > Reply-to: aroid-l@mobot.org > From: Mike Bordelon > To: zhu > Subject: Acorus > Thanks to those that checked up on Acorus tatarinowii for > me. > Looking in the Flora of China by Hen Li, A. gramineus has > leaves less than 6mm and A. tatarinowii has leaves greater > than 7mm. Is the width of a leaf a valid justification to name a > species even if all else is the same? Growing conditions can > have a great effect on the size of a plant. > > Mike Bordelon > Botany Greenhouse > Smithsonian Institution > > > Guanghua Zhu Missouri Botanical Garden P. O. Box 299 St. Louis, MO 63166-0299, USA Phone: (314)577-9454 Fax: (314)577-9438

From: "Peter Boyce" <pb02kg at lion.rbgkew.org.uk> on 1998.12.10 at 14:32:08(2799) George Acorus: Not Acoroideae/Araceae. It's in it's own family Acoraceae, a familyu not even in Arales. It's basal to all the rest of the monocots. Pete +More ---------------------------- Peter Boyce Herbarium Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Richmond, Surrey TW9 3AE Tel. (+44) (0)181 332 5207 email: p.boyce@lion.rbgkew.org.uk (work) boyce@pothos.demon.co.uk (home)

From: James Waddick jwaddick at kc.rr.com> on 2005.10.13 at 14:03:45(13443) Dear All; I am looking for a few good -high res pix of Acorus especially those that can show characters of various cultivars. Please email me off list ONLY at jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA +More Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Hal or Nancy Robinson" robyn82 at bellsouth.net> on 2005.10.14 at 02:43:58(13446) I probably can take some pictures on Saturday if you can wait. I have about 5 varieties. None rare but the little yellow one is cute. Nancy Robinson +More I am looking for a few good -high res pix of Acorus > especially those that can show characters of various cultivars. > > Please email me off list ONLY at jwaddick@kc.rr.com > > Thanks Jim W. > -- > Dr. James W. Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. > Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 > USA > Ph. 816-746-1949 > Zone 5 Record low -23F > Summer 100F + > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Tony Avent tony at plantdelights.com> on 2005.10.15 at 20:19:50(13449) Jim: Since you brought up the former aroid, acorus, we found a species in Northern Thailand last month that didn't look like either A. calamus or A. gramineus...at least the forms that I've grown. Anyone word of another species from that region. Interesting to also note that the European A. calamus has now been segregated from the American A. americanus. Could there be more? +More At 10:43 PM 10/13/2005 -0400, you wrote: >I probably can take some pictures on Saturday if you can wait. I have about >5 varieties. None rare but the little yellow one is cute. >Nancy Robinson > I am looking for a few good -high res pix of Acorus >> especially those that can show characters of various cultivars. >> >> Please email me off list ONLY at jwaddick@kc.rr.com >> >> Thanks Jim W. >> -- >> Dr. James W. Waddick >> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. >> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 >> USA >> Ph. 816-746-1949 >> Zone 5 Record low -23F >> Summer 100F + >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aroid-l mailing list >> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > >_______________________________________________ >Aroid-l mailing list >Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdel.com phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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