Pycnospatha arietina - a problem

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.12.22 at 02:32:51(18791) Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me HTML +More Marek Argent ------=_NextPart_001_004A_01C963E5.F8282190--------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C963E5.F8282190

From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2008.12.22 at 04:48:35(18792) Hi Marek, Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. Susan HTML +More --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-702941812-1229921315=:46288----=============="04375210570756288=

From: <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2008.12.22 at 10:30:44(18793) From: abri1973@wp.pl To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:32:51 +0100 HTML +More Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Dear Marek, This is Christmas time.  Like all of us children, be patient! Your tuber/corm looks perfectly normal, and probably is in dormancy.   This is a really tropical species, and so may need a lot of warmth to break dormancy. Good Growing, Julius >>Hi all,   Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home).   This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid.  I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups).   Please help me Marek Argent --_e3f9e823-bac2-4a73-8bd0-60bb7401eb80_----==============g74428037077132087=

From: Ken Mosher <ken at spatulacity.com> on 2008.12.22 at 14:35:47(18794) Hi Marek and Susan, They smell bad only depending on the pathogen that caused the rot. I'd like to see a better photo taken more from the side. And please blow or brush off all the soil that you can. But even with a good photo there's no substitute for a hands-on inspection. You really need to use your best judgment about the tuber's weight for its size, the firmness and whether or not it looks dried-up (dry rot is common). Unfortunately it was a mistake to scratch through the skin. I've found them to be extremely picky about even minor damage. You said that you stored it at room temperature, but it was in soil, right? -Ken Mosher +More Susan B wrote: > Hi Marek, > > Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse > very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. > Susan > > --- On *Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent //* wrote: > > From: Marek Argent > Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM > > Hi all, > > Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into > dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). > > This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from > the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. > I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. > I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. > How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? > I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. > Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro > closeups). > > Please help me > Marek Argent > > _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Susan B <honeybunny442 at yahoo.com> on 2008.12.22 at 22:10:31(18795) I think it is still alive, Marek. --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent HTML +More Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 2:49 PM Hi Susan, Maybe is it not dead yet? It has and never had any smell. The tip is still green (it was above the soil). On the right the "skin" is torn. Now I attach a larger photo. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan B To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. Susan --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirussw 3709 (20081220) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l --0-591930418-1229983831=:99412----==============�75372683713669255=

From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2008.12.22 at 22:27:15(18796) Hi Marek, Amateurs probably kill more plants by poking at them and seeing”if they have come up” than die from any insect or disease. If itseems firm, why not just put it back into the pot and wait patiently for thegrowing season. Derek HTML +More -----Original Message----- From:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Monday, December 22, 20082:49 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospathaarietina - a problem Hi Susan, Maybe is it not dead yet? Ithas and never had any smell. The tip is still green (it was abovethe soil). On the right the "skin" istorn. Now I attach a larger photo. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan B To: Discussionof aroids Sent: Monday,December 22, 2008 5:48 AM Subject: Re:[Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. Susan --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnaturwirussw 3709 (20081220) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9645A.89999DB0----============== 02842375974805699=

From: "Marek Argent" <abri1973 at wp.pl> on 2008.12.24 at 16:38:43(18799) Hi Derek, It is December so I was really curious what happened. I never pull out tubers when they are in the growth season. Marek HTML +More ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussion of aroids' Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Amateurs probably kill more plants by poking at them and seeing �if they have come up� than die from any insect or disease. If it seems firm, why not just put it back into the pot and wait patiently for the growing season. Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:49 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Susan, Maybe is it not dead yet? It has and never had any smell. The tip is still green (it was above the soil). On the right the "skin" is torn. Now I attach a larger photo. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan B To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. Susan --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirussw 3709 (20081220) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirus�w 3714 (20081223) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirus�w 3714 (20081223) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C965EE.7766FDF0----==============(76732874200797606=

From: "derek burch" <dburch23 at bellsouth.net> on 2008.12.25 at 02:19:35(18804) Hi Marek, I wasn’t particularly pointing at you, although Isuppose it was your pictures that made me remember the other postings that havecome in wondering what to do with dormant tubers. We are in a favouredsituation in South Florida, but I definitely practice what Ipreach after all my years of disturbing perfectly happy plants who just want tobe left alone! Not to mention digging up seeds to see if they are sprouting! Good luck with this one, which looks fine in your pictures.Remember that the plants will tell you when they want to grow. Plants can tellyou an awful lot if you let them. Best Regards, Derek HTML +More -----Original Message----- From:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 200811:39 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospathaarietina - a problem Hi Derek, It is December so I was reallycurious what happened. I never pull out tubers when theyare in the growth season. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: derek burch To: 'Discussionof aroids' Sent: Monday,December 22, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: Re:[Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Amateurs probably kill more plantsby poking at them and seeing ”if they have come up” than die fromany insect or disease. If it seems firm, why not just put it back into the potand wait patiently for the growing season. Derek -----Original Message----- From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] OnBehalf Of Marek Argent Sent: Monday, December 22, 20082:49 PM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Pycnospathaarietina - a problem Hi Susan, Maybe is it not dead yet? Ithas and never had any smell. The tip is still green (it was abovethe soil). On the right the "skin" istorn. Now I attach a larger photo. Marek ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan B To: Discussionof aroids Sent: Monday,December 22, 2008 5:48 AM Subject: Re:[Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem Hi Marek, Oh, you will definitely know if it is rotten. Pycnospatha collapse very quickly and smell horrible. Your tuber still looks good to me. Susan --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Marek Argent wrote: From: Marek Argent Subject: [Aroid-l] Pycnospatha arietina - a problem To: "Discussion of aroids" Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:32 PM Hi all, Last year I bought one tuber, it produced a leaf and fell into dormancy as it should (I cultivated it at home). This year it hasn't put any leaf or roots. Yesterday I dug it from the pot and I still don't know if it is alive or not. I scratched it a little - it was cream beige inside and seemed solid. I broke the tip where the leaf should grow from and it was wet. How to check if it is not rotten? What to do with the tuber? I stored it during dormancy also in the room temperature. Here are 2 photos, I can do better images if neccesary (macro closeups). Please help me Marek Argent _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnaturwirussw 3709 (20081220) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnaturwirus�w 3714 (20081223) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-L mailing list Aroid-L@www.gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnaturwirus�w 3714 (20081223) __________ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C9660D.52B56F40----==============316865533328395715=

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