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Philodendron williamsii?
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.04 at 05:54:55(18066)
? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
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? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.04 at 15:37:42(18068)
In addition to that unknown aroid(Philodendron solimoesense? One of those aquatic maconostigma?), we found this amazing beautiful P. bipinnatifidum in the elephant house in the National Zoo in Washington DC....behind it is some monstera(?)
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_bipinnatifidum_img31.htm
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From: a san juan
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 1:54 AM
? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
?
? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
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From: ju-bo at msn.com (ju-bo at msn.com) on 2008.07.04 at 17:15:11(18069)
________________________________
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:54:55 -0700
> From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Dear Arlan,
I had a look, this plant is P. stenolobum. I base this determination both on leaf blade shape AND the features seen on the rhizome. It is probably an example of the ''less desirable'' form, which was sold as P. williamsii, this was before Dr. Goncalves formally described P. stenolobum.
The Best,
Julius
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>> Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it is?
>
> ...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
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> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: rhweeks at attglobal.net (Ron Weeks) on 2008.07.04 at 18:06:38(18071)
Hola Airlan,
Those are not you best photos and the plant is in poor health. I would say
either P. solimoesense or a wide leaf form of P. stenolobum that was in
tissue culture a few years ago. If I had to pick it would be P. stenolobum
from the leaf scar pattern on the stem.
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:54:55 -0400, a san juan wrote:
> ? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it
> is?
>
> ...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
> ?
> ? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
> ? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
> ? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: abri1973 at wp.pl (Marek Argent) on 2008.07.04 at 18:45:48(18073)
Or maybe Philodendron stenolobum?
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From: a san juan
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To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.05 at 18:27:18(18083)
Hi Julius,
Thanks for the ID....I actually regretted sending out that i thought it was P. williamsii, was thinking it was something else.
I took this image from the National Aquarium in Baltimore, MA....
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--- On Fri, 7/4/08, ju-bo at msn.com wrote:
From: ju-bo at msn.com
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 1:15 PM
________________________________
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:54:55 -0700
> From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com
> To: aroid-l at gizmoworks.com
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Dear Arlan,
I had a look, this plant is P. stenolobum. I base this determination both on
leaf blade shape AND the features seen on the rhizome. It is probably an
example of the ''less desirable'' form, which was sold as P.
williamsii, this was before Dr. Goncalves formally described P. stenolobum.
The Best,
Julius
>> Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it
is?
>
> ...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.05 at 18:34:50(18084)
Yeah, I regretted sending that out as "P. williamsii" the moment i hit the submit button - i just wanted to "entice" people? ;-)
The reason I was thinking it might not be P. stenolobum is that the stem morphology does not seem to match my idea of what P. stenolobum usually has: very short internodes.
For example:
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http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img3.htm
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img5.htm
But the pic of that aroid in the National Aquarium is so bad that this particular morphology might just be obscured (although the anterior division seems to betray it as P. stenolobum)....
If anyone is in that area, they can find it in the National Aquarium in Baltimore, MD.
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Marek Argent wrote:
From: Marek Argent
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 2:45 PM
Or maybe Philodendron
stenolobum?
----- Original Message -----
From:
a san juan
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma:
Philodendron williamsii?
? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to
take a guess what it is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's in
a dim room, sorry...
?
? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
?
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
?
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.07.06 at 19:20:04(18090)
Dear Arlan,
Aloha.
For some reason, I could not open any of your photo files...but I see that you have your answer from Sir Julius...so you can take that to the bank.
Aloha,
Leland
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--- On Sat, 7/5/08, a san juan wrote:
> From: a san juan
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 8:34 AM
> Yeah, I regretted sending that out as "P.
> williamsii" the moment i hit the submit button - i
> just wanted to "entice" people? ;-)
>
> The reason I was thinking it might not be P. stenolobum is
> that the stem morphology does not seem to match my idea of
> what P. stenolobum usually has: very short internodes.
>
> For example:
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img3.htm
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img5.htm
>
> But the pic of that aroid in the National Aquarium is so
> bad that this particular morphology might just be obscured
> (although the anterior division seems to betray it as P.
> stenolobum)....
>
> If anyone is in that area, they can find it in the National
> Aquarium in Baltimore, MD.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Marek Argent
> wrote:
> From: Marek Argent
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron
> williamsii?
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
>
> Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 2:45 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Or maybe Philodendron
> stenolobum?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> a san juan
>
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54 AM
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma:
> Philodendron williamsii?
>
>
>
>
>
> ? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to
> take a guess what it is?
>
> ...the pics are blurred, because it's in
> a dim room, sorry...
> ?
> ?
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
> ?
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
> ?
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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>
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.07 at 05:44:48(18095)
Thanks leland...something to do with the way Yahoo packages links...here you go:
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_spp_img7.htm
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_spp_img8.htm
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http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_spp_img9.htm
again, sorry for the quality, but i believe i was taking pics in? darkness...
here's the beautiful P. bipinnatifidum in the elephant house in Washington DC:
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_bipinnatifidum_img31.htm
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, brian lee wrote:
From: brian lee
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
To: "Discussion of aroids"
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 3:20 PM
Dear Arlan,
Aloha.
For some reason, I could not open any of your photo files...but I see that you
have your answer from Sir Julius...so you can take that to the bank.
Aloha,
Leland
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, a san juan wrote:
> From: a san juan
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 8:34 AM
> Yeah, I regretted sending that out as "P.
> williamsii" the moment i hit the submit button - i
> just wanted to "entice" people ;-)
>
> The reason I was thinking it might not be P. stenolobum is
> that the stem morphology does not seem to match my idea of
> what P. stenolobum usually has: very short internodes.
>
> For example:
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img3.htm
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/p_stenolobum_img5.htm
>
> But the pic of that aroid in the National Aquarium is so
> bad that this particular morphology might just be obscured
> (although the anterior division seems to betray it as P.
> stenolobum)....
>
> If anyone is in that area, they can find it in the National
> Aquarium in Baltimore, MD.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Marek Argent
> wrote:
> From: Marek Argent
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron
> williamsii?
> To: "Discussion of aroids"
>
> Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 2:45 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Or maybe Philodendron
> stenolobum?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> a san juan
>
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54 AM
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma:
> Philodendron williamsii?
>
>
>
>
>
> Took these pics just last year...anyone want to
> take a guess what it is?
>
> ...the pics are blurred, because it's in
> a dim room, sorry...
>
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
>
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
>
>
> http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
>
>
>
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From: denis at skg.com (Denis) on 2008.07.07 at 13:52:49(18099)
Possibly Philodendron solimosense....hard to tell without better
picture. give it more light and see if it matures a bit more.
Denis
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From: aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek Argent
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:46 PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Or maybe Philodendron stenolobum?
----- Original Message -----
From: a san juan
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Took these pics just last year...anyone want to take a guess what it
is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's in a dim room, sorry...
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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From: kalim1998 at yahoo.com (a san juan) on 2008.07.07 at 21:52:16(18105)
Hi denis, that was a specimen i saw at the National Aquarium in Baltimore, MD. It was in semi-darkness, which explains the bad picture quality.
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Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:52 AM
Message
Possibly Philodendron solimosense....hard to tell without better picture.
give it more light and see if it matures a bit more.
?
Denis
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From:
aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces at gizmoworks.com] On
Behalf Of Marek Argent
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:46
PM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Unknown
Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
Or maybe Philodendron
stenolobum?
----- Original Message -----
From:
a san
juan
To: Discussion of aroids
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:54
AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown
Meconostigma: Philodendron williamsii?
? Took these pics just last year...anyone want to
take a guess what it is?
...the pics are blurred, because it's
in a dim room, sorry...
?
? http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00339.jpg
?
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00340.jpg
?
http://www.blueboard.com/pahatan/gambar/images/2007_11_23_d00341.jpg
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