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  Ecuadorian aroids
From: desinadora at mail2designer.com (Elizabeth Campbell) on 2008.06.28 at 22:59:24(17997)
Hello group!

Steve over at Exotic Rainforest sent me an email recently saying that I
should share my in-situ photos of the aroids I encounter when out
hiking. I live in Ecuador, in close proximity to some of the cloud
forests where Dr. Croat does his collections. Rather than fill your
inboxes up with dozens of attachments, I've uploaded them to a gallery
at
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Aroids%20A%20Go
-Go/
for your viewing pleasure. Some of the aroids there, I have been able to
identify (with Steve's and others' kind help) and others remain NOIDS.
Many of the photos are of juvenile forms that spring up from the edges
of road cuts. If any of you recognise them, please let me know and I
will update their labels accordingly!

There are two photos marked "Mystery Anthurium" which Dr. Croat believes
may be new species. If you are interested in seeing more photos of this
particular species, they are at
http://photobucket.com/UnknownAnthurium
There are four or five specimens of it growing in the Quito Botanical
Gardens, which is where I took the photos of it. It appears to have been
rescued from the oil pipeline near Mindo, Ecuador; beyond this, garden
staff don't know anything about it. It is a very large, freestanding
plant - the initial photos are of leaves just a hair over 6' in length;
later photos are of younger leaves which were only about 46" - still
fairly impressive.

I hope you enjoy!

Beth

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From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.06.29 at 11:59:38(18000)
Thanks Beth! I know many of the Anthurium collectors are going to drool over these. Since your links did not come out highlighted I'm copying them to make it easier to simply click and go right to the page:

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Aroids%20A%20Go-Go/

http://photobucket.com/UnknownAnthurium

If you love Aroids, you are going to want some of these plants. And Julius, I'd bet you saw Beth's really strange Anthurium near the oil fields!

Steve Lucas

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From: pugturd at alltel.net (Brian Williams) on 2008.06.29 at 14:46:23(18001)
Elizabeth very impressive photos. I always enjoy seeing the plants in
their native habitat. I did see a Zantedeschia in your photos that
should not be native correct? I have always known them to be African
natives? Very odd!

From: ecuador10 at comcast.net (Betsy Feuerstein) on 2008.06.29 at 15:10:32(18002)
Hate to be a pain, but how does one get photobucket web sites to open. Google does not call them up for me. Help if you can......
Betsy
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From: LLmen at wi.rr.com (Don Martinson) on 2008.06.29 at 20:54:04(18004)
For some reason, at least for me, my e-mail program attached the first word
of the next line ?for? to the link which Beth posted. The correct link
should be:

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Aroids%20A%20Go-Go/

See if that helps.

Don Martinson

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From: Wrig14 at aol.com (Wrig14 at aol.com) on 2008.06.29 at 21:07:26(18005)
Hi, Sorry I don't use photobucket Glad to know youre back. Did you make
the Magrue auction?. Did you have a good trip? Nosy aren,t I Sorry J.

**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for

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From: abri1973 at wp.pl (Marek Argent) on 2008.06.29 at 21:54:50(18009)
Hello,

The closest for me in look is Anthurium ochranthum, but I'm rather sure this is not (?)

Marek

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From: RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com (RAYMOMATTLA at cs.com) on 2008.06.30 at 02:52:11(18010)
Probably naturalized in Ecuador. I can remember seeing them naturalized
around streams in even very remote areas in Costa Rica, especially at higher
alititudes.

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From: sparky4114 at mac.com (Thom Powell) on 2008.06.30 at 12:46:57(18013)
WOW!! AMAZING PICS!!

On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:59 AM, ExoticRainforest wrote:

> Thanks Beth! I know many of the Anthurium collectors are going to
> drool over these. Since your links did not come out highlighted I'm
> copying them to make it easier to simply click and go right to the
> page:

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From: Tropicals at SolutionsAnalysis.net (Tropicals) on 2008.06.30 at 15:00:25(18015)
Can anyone please tell me this Anthurium species?
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh196/HabloPorArboles/Aroids%20A%20Go-Go/
?action=view
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From: desinadora at mail2designer.com (Elizabeth Campbell) on 2008.06.30 at 19:08:26(18018)
Betsy - try copying and pasting the addresses in my original message
into your address bar.

Hope this works for you.

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From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2008.06.30 at 19:11:47(18019)
Dear Elizabeth,

Aloha and mahalo (thank you), for sharing your photos with Aroid-L.

I cannot make much of a comment to help with the identities of the various plants you posted, but I certainly know what a beautiful plant is.

I understand you are a designer...I am a designer of landscapes among other things, so I really appreciate the beauty of plants. With Roberto Burle-Marx of Brazil, we did alot of salvage conservation from rainforest areas, etc., of habitats actively being destroyed. All of the collections were deposited in ex-situ collections in Brazil. I notice you speak for the trees, so that is a good thing. Here in Hawaii, we have lost so much of our flora and fauna. If you have the interest, go to www.honoluluacademy.org , click on exhibitions on the top dock and scroll to current exhibitions and Leland Miyano.

On your hikes, please take additional photos. Hawaii has Ecuadorian plants here due to the collection of Dorothy Henkle, who traveled to your country looking for interesting aroids. Unfortunately, I do not know the identities of many of her plants...much of the data was lost on her death and the distribution of her collections. I recognize some of the plants in the photos...or at least very similar species, vegetatively. It would be wonderful if you and Dr. Croat meet when he visits...I am sure you will learn the most from him. Maybe a second degree in botany is in your future. Are you in contact with Ecuadorian botanists?...ask Dr. Croat for recommendations.

Thank you again for sharing these images with us. I would like to see photos with something for scale...the photos with your hand are very helpful.

Keep up the photography in habitat...I for one, look forward to seeing more...with commentary as you find out specific information.

Aloha,

Leland

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From: desinadora at mail2designer.com (Elizabeth Campbell) on 2008.06.30 at 19:46:27(18022)
I will defend the presence of that particular Zantedeschia as an
Ecuadorian aroid. The parent species, yes, is absolutely from Africa.
However, the green-blooming version shown in the picture is a cultivar
developed in the town of Cayambe (just north of Quito), specifically for
the export flowers trade.

I must apologise to all of you - I browse the web using Safari, on a Mac
computer, and it blocks all of the popups for me automatically. I wasn't
aware of the popup problem. I shall, de pronto, transfer that gallery
over to Flikr which I understand is less problematic.

Anybody who is seeing more than rudimentary labeling (on my own review,
only about 5 photos are labeled as to species or genus, and most of
these are best guesses) is not looking at the correct galleries. I am a
complete neophyte to the world of aroids, and wouldn't know a split-leaf
Philodendron from a Monstera.

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From: desinadora at mail2designer.com (Elizabeth Campbell) on 2008.07.01 at 13:22:55(18029)
Christian - the entire series from 9539 through 9541 is the same plant.
Yes, it has a slight velvet texture. This one was interesting to me,
because I'd only ever seen terrestrial forms of it before and this was a
full epiphyte climbing the trunk of an Andean walnut tree. I presume
it's done this to escape the terrible soil conditions that walnut trees
produce around them.

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From: abri1973 at wp.pl (Marek Argent) on 2008.07.01 at 18:34:34(18036)
Hi,

Zantedeschia in Ecuador is a diaphyte. It means that it is not native there but naturalized and gone wild.

Marek

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