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Philodendron williamsii. It isn't
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From: Steve at ExoticRainforest.com (ExoticRainforest) on 2008.04.20 at 18:22:49(17430)
I started to say "thank you" Julius for your comment, but instead want to say Thank You for a very different reason. The only reason I have correct information on most of my web pages is because of people like you, Leland, Dr. Croat, Denis Rotolante, Dr. Gon?alves, Pete Boyce, Ron Weeks, Alistair Hay, David Scherberich and a bunch of others who take the time to coach me, edit my pages, and explain why something commonly believed is in error! I just enjoy digging into the scientific journals to find the right questions to ask in order to be able to pose them here and to the individuals named above!
I've been told three times this past week my pages on Philodendron williamsii and Philodendron stenolobum are wrong, but since you guys have made sure they are right, so be it! I'll never change everyone's mind. We may never get everyone to believe scientific truth, but the information is out there for them to find. Still, one request. If you happen to be one of the Miami Philodendron experts who assured the current seller on eBay their name for Philodendron stenolobum is actually Philodendron williamsii, please read the pages and send them a note. They still believe they have the name right as a result of a "well known Miami Philodendron expert".
Again, to all of you who help me every single week, Thank You! My little website would just be another one on a long list without your help. Please know I am always grateful for that help! And to any of you, if you find something you believe is questionable on the ExoticRainforest website, PLEASE POINT IT OUT! Do it here! I want to know if there is anything that is scientifically inaccurate posted on the site.
Steve Lucas
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Dear Fellow Aroid-lovers,
It is just sad that the mislabeling of plants so dear to us continues, and that these plants, in spite of correct information being easily available, are still being sold using the incorrect identifications, and so perpetuating these silly errors. Hopefully the sellers will learn, or the buyers will be intellegent enough to search for and find the correct information on their new plants true identities, and change the labels.
To all out there, Graff`s books were and still are wonderful pictoral records of rare plants, but the indentifications are WAY outdated, and almost all are now, after all these years, completely inaccurate from a scientific point of view.
For recent, updated information, please refer to Leland Miyano`s list of recently published literature (below) on these species in question, (at least to P. stenolobum) and to Steve Lucas' excellent work on both P. stenolobum AND P. williamsii, his pages on these and many other Aroids incorporate most if not all the most recent information and updates on the names, and what these two species actually look like, and where they occur in nature, also great historical information.
In trying to understand the reluctance of some to accept the correct and updated names, we must not discount the fact that there is still an active ''Flat Earth Society" out there, and people are still debating that all space flight, man on the moon, etc. are all false, and created by the Goverment to fool us. Also, there are some who believe that the dog did not evolve from the wolf, that God in His wisdom created the dog, giving it His name spelled backwards.
"There are none so blind as those who WILL NOT see".
Some collectors will continue to put what names they are accostomed to and ''like'' on their plants, we may not be able to change some, but MUST keep trying! That Steve`s pages, which offer correct information to collectors are available on line is, I am certain, gratifying to science.
Good Growing,
Julius
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