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From: philofan at philodendron.org (Tom Vincze) on 2007.08.03 at 00:28:01(16056)
That's quite a variety, Brian.
I have one of your Brazilian p. saxicolum seedlings which I think are
from those same batches. I think it's another one of the selloum
forms like you show here. I am curious if the leaves will change with
further growth.
Tom Vincze
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> Here are some pics of the Philodendrons seedlings I grew out form
> that Brazilian seed order a few years back. Most of these were
> under different names some were suppose to be forms of Selloum but
> I think most are either forms of Selloum (bipinnatifidum) or
> hybrids. I have never grown out so many philo seeds to get so much
> diversity. I did get 4 vining forms of philos from that order that
> did grow out. Most if not all look identical and though not all
> were true to their named tagged they were forms I had ordered.
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From: rhweeks at attglobal.net (Ron Weeks) on 2007.08.03 at 15:18:26(16059)
The seed I received produced the same diversity Brian found. I threw most
of them out after growing them to up to a 6" pot size and kept about 10
that showed some potential to be different. My selections have less
division in the leaf blade and almost white veins with a blush of red on
the back of the leaf. Several flowered this spring. All the inflorescences
had spathes shorter than the spadix and produced a fragrance unlike any
other philodendron I have encountered. They might just be forms of
bipinnatifidum but I suspect they are hybrids. Perhaps the attached photo
will explain it better than I do.
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:49:06 -0400, Brian Williams
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wrote:
> Here are some pics of the Philodendrons seedlings I grew out form that
> Brazilian seed order a few years back. Most of these were under
> different names some were suppose to be forms of Selloum but I think
> most are either forms of Selloum (bipinnatifidum) or hybrids. I have
> never grown out so many philo seeds to get so much diversity. I did get
> 4 vining forms of philos from that order that did grow out. Most if not
> all look identical and though not all were true to their named tagged
> they were forms I had ordered.
>
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From: lbmkjm at yahoo.com (brian lee) on 2007.08.03 at 17:54:43(16060)
Dear Philodendron enthusiasts,
Aloha. I have been seeing a great deal of hybrids
that originate out of Brazilian ex-situ collections.
I suspect that because they still have native
pollinators, these collections will probably hybridize
in a promiscuous fashion with a whole range of
variation of whatever is around and compatible
genetically. Unless great care is exercised during
pollination, hybrids in these collection may be
expected. I have seen a Philodendron adamantinum
photo in Roberto Burle-Marx's collection that is a
possible hybrid...if one did not know the species
variations, this could be passed as a pure species.
It remains beautiful, but it would differ from a
vegetative propagation of the described species. This
is just one example...
Aloha.
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--- Ron Weeks wrote:
> The seed I received produced the same diversity
> Brian found. I threw most
> of them out after growing them to up to a 6" pot
> size and kept about 10
> that showed some potential to be different. My
> selections have less
> division in the leaf blade and almost white veins
> with a blush of red on
> the back of the leaf. Several flowered this spring.
> All the inflorescences
> had spathes shorter than the spadix and produced a
> fragrance unlike any
> other philodendron I have encountered. They might
> just be forms of
> bipinnatifidum but I suspect they are hybrids.
> Perhaps the attached photo
> will explain it better than I do.
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:49:06 -0400, Brian Williams
>
> wrote:
>
> > Here are some pics of the Philodendrons seedlings
> I grew out form that
> > Brazilian seed order a few years back. Most of
> these were under
> > different names some were suppose to be forms of
> Selloum but I think
> > most are either forms of Selloum (bipinnatifidum)
> or hybrids. I have
> > never grown out so many philo seeds to get so much
> diversity. I did get
> > 4 vining forms of philos from that order that did
> grow out. Most if not
> > all look identical and though not all were true to
> their named tagged
> > they were forms I had ordered.
> >
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