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Syngonium setting seed in S. Florida
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From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.03.28 at 00:02:13(15495)
Reply-To : Discussion of aroids
Sent : Monday, March 26, 2007 9:10 PM
To : "Discussion of aroids"
Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
Dear Eric and Tom,
Just FYI, a few years ago when Vic Soukup was looking for seed of Syngongium
podophyllum, I happened to be working for a Company with an office on the W.
of side h/way 441 (State Road 7) just S. of Boynton Beach Blvd. in Delrey
Beach, Florida. This area borders the Everglades. There was a stand of
Cypress trees on the South side of the property on which many introduced S.
podophyllum had grown, and I believe around mid- or late summer, many of
these climbers had produced a substantial number of ripe and opening fruit
on them! I managed to collect for Vic, but with some difficulty (because
of the height of these climbers, about 15-20 ft. up) a fairly large number
of mature seed of these aroids, and with more effort and time could have
collected even more.
I GUESS there is some pollinator in the area??
Also of interest, a friend who has a nursery nearby, and who has HUGE plants
of Montrichardia cf. linnifera which he grew from seed I gave him ex.
Trinidad, W.I. many years ago, has had his 15'-tall plants bloom, AND to our
delight, set and produce large numbers of viable seed!
I understand that in nature (in S. America) that this plant is pollinated by
large bees, so I wonder what is happening in S. Florida re: potential/actual
pollinators!
The Best,
Julius
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Dear Eric:
Most Syngonium in cultivation here in North America do not get
pollinated so don?t set seeds. Even in the wild mature fruits are not
frequently seen owing to the fact that mature fruits are tasty and animals
quickly remove them. What is the nature of this project and what to you
mean by a LOT of seeds? If you prefer you could contact me off line.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
On Behalf Of cgdz33a@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:39 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
To the IAS,
I am a member currently undertaking research on Aroid morphology and am
looking for seeds of Aroids, particularly of Syngonium podophyllum. If
anyone has seeds, or sources for me to get some (other than flying to South
America or Florida) Id appreciate it. I do need fairly good provenance data.
I can pay for seeds and shipping (if reasonable). However I need alot of
seed so any donations would also be appreciated.
Thanks Alot
Eric C. Morgan
Bartlett Arboretum
151 Brookdale Rd
Stamford CT 06903
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From: "Tom Croat" <Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2007.03.28 at 15:56:20(15501)
Julius:
This is an interesting observation because if these genera are
being pollinated in Florida it means that some local pollinator has
learned how to do it and thus they could simply go native in Florida.
This would make a good paper if one could collect the pollinators.
Tom
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Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to our FTP Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Julius Boos
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:02 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium setting seed in S. Florida
>From : Tom Croat
Reply-To : Discussion of aroids
Sent : Monday, March 26, 2007 9:10 PM
To : "Discussion of aroids"
Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
Dear Eric and Tom,
Just FYI, a few years ago when Vic Soukup was looking for seed of
Syngongium
podophyllum, I happened to be working for a Company with an office on
the W.
of side h/way 441 (State Road 7) just S. of Boynton Beach Blvd. in
Delrey
Beach, Florida. This area borders the Everglades. There was a stand
of
Cypress trees on the South side of the property on which many
introduced S.
podophyllum had grown, and I believe around mid- or late summer, many of
these climbers had produced a substantial number of ripe and opening
fruit
on them! I managed to collect for Vic, but with some difficulty
(because
of the height of these climbers, about 15-20 ft. up) a fairly large
number
of mature seed of these aroids, and with more effort and time could have
collected even more.
I GUESS there is some pollinator in the area??
Also of interest, a friend who has a nursery nearby, and who has HUGE
plants
of Montrichardia cf. linnifera which he grew from seed I gave him ex.
Trinidad, W.I. many years ago, has had his 15'-tall plants bloom, AND to
our
delight, set and produce large numbers of viable seed!
I understand that in nature (in S. America) that this plant is
pollinated by
large bees, so I wonder what is happening in S. Florida re:
potential/actual
pollinators!
The Best,
Julius
>>Dear Eric:
Most Syngonium in cultivation here in North America do not
get
pollinated so don't set seeds. Even in the wild mature fruits are not
frequently seen owing to the fact that mature fruits are tasty and
animals
quickly remove them. What is the nature of this project and what to you
mean by a LOT of seeds? If you prefer you could contact me off line.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
On Behalf Of cgdz33a@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:39 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
To the IAS,
I am a member currently undertaking research on Aroid morphology and am
looking for seeds of Aroids, particularly of Syngonium podophyllum. If
anyone has seeds, or sources for me to get some (other than flying to
South
America or Florida) Id appreciate it. I do need fairly good provenance
data.
I can pay for seeds and shipping (if reasonable). However I need alot of
seed so any donations would also be appreciated.
Thanks Alot
Eric C. Morgan
Bartlett Arboretum
151 Brookdale Rd
Stamford CT 06903
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From: Adam Black <epiphyte1 at earthlink.net> on 2007.03.29 at 03:34:35(15508)
I remember seeing fruiting Syngonium podophyllum regularly in our yard
in Miami when I was a kid, and even more recently I recall fruiting
plants in my mom's yard in the Orlando area - and all this time I have
never thought much of it. I can't say I ever noticed anything I would
call a seedling, but then again I never really paid attention. I'll
have to start watching the many Syngoniums at my mom's new property.
Surely others in south and central Florida have made the same
observations?
Adam
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Tom Croat wrote:
Julius:
This is an interesting observation because if these genera are
being pollinated in Florida it means that some local pollinator has
learned how to do it and thus they could simply go native in Florida.
This would make a good paper if one could collect the pollinators.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
Please send images to our FTP Server.
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Julius Boos
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:02 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium setting seed in S. Florida
>From : Tom Croat
Reply-To : Discussion of aroids
Sent : Monday, March 26, 2007 9:10 PM
To : "Discussion of aroids"
Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
Dear Eric and Tom,
Just FYI, a few years ago when Vic Soukup was looking for seed of
Syngongium
podophyllum, I happened to be working for a Company with an office on
the W.
of side h/way 441 (State Road 7) just S. of Boynton Beach Blvd. in
Delrey
Beach, Florida. This area borders the Everglades. There was a stand
of
Cypress trees on the South side of the property on which many
introduced S.
podophyllum had grown, and I believe around mid- or late summer, many of
these climbers had produced a substantial number of ripe and opening
fruit
on them! I managed to collect for Vic, but with some difficulty
(because
of the height of these climbers, about 15-20 ft. up) a fairly large
number
of mature seed of these aroids, and with more effort and time could have
collected even more.
I GUESS there is some pollinator in the area??
Also of interest, a friend who has a nursery nearby, and who has HUGE
plants
of Montrichardia cf. linnifera which he grew from seed I gave him ex.
Trinidad, W.I. many years ago, has had his 15'-tall plants bloom, AND to
our
delight, set and produce large numbers of viable seed!
I understand that in nature (in S. America) that this plant is
pollinated by
large bees, so I wonder what is happening in S. Florida re:
potential/actual
pollinators!
The Best,
Julius
Dear Eric:
Most Syngonium in cultivation here in North America do not
get
pollinated so don't set seeds. Even in the wild mature fruits are not
frequently seen owing to the fact that mature fruits are tasty and
animals
quickly remove them. What is the nature of this project and what to you
mean by a LOT of seeds? If you prefer you could contact me off line.
Tom
Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
Missouri Botanical Garden
Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
(314) 577-5163
[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
On Behalf Of cgdz33a@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:39 PM
To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
To the IAS,
I am a member currently undertaking research on Aroid morphology and am
looking for seeds of Aroids, particularly of Syngonium podophyllum. If
anyone has seeds, or sources for me to get some (other than flying to
South
America or Florida) Id appreciate it. I do need fairly good provenance
data.
I can pay for seeds and shipping (if reasonable). However I need alot of
seed so any donations would also be appreciated.
Thanks Alot
Eric C. Morgan
Bartlett Arboretum
151 Brookdale Rd
Stamford CT 06903
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From: Eric Schmidt <leu242 at yahoo.com> on 2007.03.30 at 15:38:54(15533)
Here at Leu Gardens in Orlando, Syngonium podophyllum
frequently fruits but I have never seen stray
seedlings like you do from Monstera deliciosa. Same
with some growing in my old yard and at my mom's
house.
Eric
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Orlando,FL z9b/10a
--- Adam Black wrote:
>
> I remember seeing fruiting Syngonium podophyllum
> regularly in our yard
> in Miami when I was a kid, and even more recently I
> recall fruiting
> plants in my mom's yard in the Orlando area - and
> all this time I have
> never thought much of it. I can't say I ever noticed
> anything I would
> call a seedling, but then again I never really paid
> attention. I'll have
> to start watching the many Syngoniums at my mom's
> new property. Surely
> others in south and central Florida have made the
> same observations?
>
> Adam
>
> Tom Croat wrote:
>
> >Julius:
> >
> > This is an interesting observation because if
> these genera are
> >being pollinated in Florida it means that some
> local pollinator has
> >learned how to do it and thus they could simply go
> native in Florida.
> >This would make a good paper if one could collect
> the pollinators.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
> >Missouri Botanical Garden
> >Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
> >(314) 577-5163
> >Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
> >Please send images to our FTP Server.
>
>ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/incoming/croat
>
>ftp://garfile:garden2003@cissus.mobot.org/outgoing/croat
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> >[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf
> Of Julius Boos
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:02 PM
> >To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
> >Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium setting seed in S.
> Florida
> >
> >
> >
> >>From : Tom Croat
> >Reply-To : Discussion of aroids
>
> >Sent : Monday, March 26, 2007 9:10 PM
> >To : "Discussion of aroids"
>
> >Subject : RE: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
> >
> >Dear Eric and Tom,
> >
> >Just FYI, a few years ago when Vic Soukup was
> looking for seed of
> >Syngongium
> >podophyllum, I happened to be working for a Company
> with an office on
> >the W.
> >of side h/way 441 (State Road 7) just S. of
> Boynton Beach Blvd. in
> >Delrey
> >Beach, Florida. This area borders the Everglades.
> There was a stand
> >of
> >Cypress trees on the South side of the property on
> which many
> >introduced S.
> >podophyllum had grown, and I believe around mid- or
> late summer, many of
> >
> >these climbers had produced a substantial number of
> ripe and opening
> >fruit
> >on them! I managed to collect for Vic, but with
> some difficulty
> >(because
> >of the height of these climbers, about 15-20 ft.
> up) a fairly large
> >number
> >of mature seed of these aroids, and with more
> effort and time could have
> >
> >collected even more.
> >I GUESS there is some pollinator in the area??
> >Also of interest, a friend who has a nursery
> nearby, and who has HUGE
> >plants
> >of Montrichardia cf. linnifera which he grew from
> seed I gave him ex.
> >Trinidad, W.I. many years ago, has had his 15'-tall
> plants bloom, AND to
> >our
> >delight, set and produce large numbers of viable
> seed!
> >I understand that in nature (in S. America) that
> this plant is
> >pollinated by
> >large bees, so I wonder what is happening in S.
> Florida re:
> >potential/actual
> >pollinators!
> >
> >The Best,
> >
> >Julius
> >
> >
> >
> >>>Dear Eric:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > Most Syngonium in cultivation here in
> North America do not
> >get
> >pollinated so don't set seeds. Even in the wild
> mature fruits are not
> >frequently seen owing to the fact that mature
> fruits are tasty and
> >animals
> >quickly remove them. What is the nature of this
> project and what to you
> >
> >mean by a LOT of seeds? If you prefer you could
> contact me off line.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Tom Croat, P. A. Schulze Curator of Botany
> >
> >Missouri Botanical Garden
> >
> >Box 299, St. Louis, Missouri 63116
> >
> >(314) 577-5163
> >
> >
> >
> >From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> >[mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
> >On Behalf Of cgdz33a@aol.com
> >Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:39 PM
> >To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
> >Subject: [Aroid-l] Syngonium
> >
> >
> >
> >To the IAS,
> >
> >
> >
> >I am a member currently undertaking research on
> Aroid morphology and am
> >looking for seeds of Aroids, particularly of
> Syngonium podophyllum. If
> >anyone has seeds, or sources for me to get some
> (other than flying to
> >South
> >America or Florida) Id appreciate it. I do need
> fairly good provenance
> >data.
> >I can pay for seeds and shipping (if reasonable).
> However I need alot of
> >
> >seed so any donations would also be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks Alot
> >
> >
> >
> >Eric C. Morgan
> >
> >Bartlett Arboretum
> >
> >151 Brookdale Rd
> >
> >Stamford CT 06903
> >
> >AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out
> more about what's free
> >from
> >AOL at AOL.com.
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
>
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