Hybrids/orchids/Don

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.02.25 at 22:55:11(15354) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:45 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com (Discussion of aroids) Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Hybrids? Don, Orchids present a special case. It is thought that IN THE WILD they are generally kept as 'pure species' by the different odors they produce, and the different times of day/night that these odors are produced, this attracts different pollinators which are thought to only be attracted to THAT particular species/genus of orchid. When man puts his 'grubby little fingers' into the picture wielding a moist camel hair brush, it circumvents nature, and hybrids, which VERY rarely MIGHT be seen in nature, are produced. Good Growing Julius +More Julius thanks for the clarification (the ass and the horse) == a mule, however I also think of orchids where 4 distinct species will cross and produce viable seed. Cattleya+laliea+brassovola+epidendrum Don Hudson Have A Great Day !!! TakeCare... _ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: bonaventure at optonline.net on 2007.02.26 at 20:34:52(15368) Re orchids - no moist camel hair brush. A toothpick does the job, transferring the pollen as one mass, the pollinium.. +More Bonaventure----- Original Message -----From: Julius Boos Date: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:54 pmSubject: Re: [Aroid-l] Hybrids/orchids/DonTo: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> > >From : > Reply-To : Discussion of aroids > Sent : Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:45 PM> To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com (Discussion of aroids)> Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Hybrids?> > > > Don,> > Orchids present a special case. It is thought that IN THE WILD > they are > generally kept as 'pure species' by the different odors they > produce, and > the different times of day/night that these odors are produced, > this > attracts different pollinators which are thought to only be > attracted to > THAT particular species/genus of orchid. When man puts his > 'grubby little > fingers' into the picture wielding a moist camel hair brush, it > circumvents > nature, and hybrids, which VERY rarely MIGHT be seen in nature, > are > produced.> > Good Growing> > Julius> > >>Julius thanks for the clarification (the ass and the horse) == > a mule,> however I also thi nk of orchids where 4 distinct species will > cross and> produce viable seed. > Cattleya+laliea+brassovola+epidendrumDon Hudson> > > Have A Great Day !!! TakeCare...> > _> > > _______________________________________________> Aroid-l mailing list> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l> _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: HUDSONSBIRDS at webtv.net on 2007.03.01 at 14:06:14(15376) Julius-Again thanks for the clarification. I DO understand that odor-shape or other "lures" can induce different insects to pollinate a flower, HOWEVER whether its MAN or INSECT- cross pollination of various sub-species IS possible. +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo at msn.com> on 2007.03.04 at 17:37:16(15383) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Thursday, March 1, 2007 2:06 PM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com (Discussion of aroids) Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Hybrids/orchids/Don Absoloutly! Cross-pollination has always been possible, and in some cases obviously occurs even in nature! I guess what I was/am trying to express is how it would seem that 'Mother Nature' has put many 'safe-guards' in place to prevent this happening in MOST cases! I had two species of Urospatha in cultivation some years ago, they could esily be told apart by leaf shape and texture, spathe shape and color, etc. Ones bloom smelled of cantelope, one of over-ripe fruit salad, they occured far apart in Nature, one at the mouth of the Orinoco River, the other in Tortugero Canal in Costa Rica. I managed to easily cross-pollinate one with the other, got 100% viable seeed, and the hybrids were a good half-way match of the parents. No arguement from me re: the possibility of species cross-pollination, but would it/could it occur in Nature??? Who knows! I do know that two species of Philodendron growing close to the jungle in a friends yard in Fr. Guyana were 'naturally' cross-pollinated, presumably by scrab beetles, one was P. gouldii, the other P. solimoense, and the hybrid was one strange-looking plant! Julius +More Julius-Again thanks for the clarification. I DO understand that odor-shape or other "lures" can induce different insects to pollinate a flower, HOWEVER whether its MAN or INSECT- cross pollination of various sub-species IS possible. << _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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