Digest, Vol 25, Issue 9

From: "Alwyn Wootten" alwootten at gmail.com> on 2006.08.10 at 19:10:58(14490) Hi Tom and Nancy Thanks! I noticed that the fauna were getting there first so I cut the stalks and I'll try the maceration tango you describe. The Arum in question is here in Charlottesville this is one of the Arum italicum varieties with silver veins, quite nice. I like it because it is up and pretty in the winter when nothing else is, so it sits where the lilies are in summer by the walk. I'm in Santiago from September through mid-December. The ALMA telescope isn't far from Salta, Argentina (if one attacks the unpaved Jama road over the Andes); some day I mean to try to go see a Synandrospadix vermitoxicus in the wild. And to get to the Amazon. But in Santiago all aroids are cultivated, though it is a rare house or apartment building in Las Condes which doesn't have a garden full of the usual suspects. So far I've spent more time wandering around the various reserve areas than seeking out botanical gardens there. The project published a volume this week on the archaeology of our telescope site; a second volume on the flora and fauna is in the works. A pdf of the Spanish version (English version still in production) is available at www.nrao.cl if anyone is interested. I'm looking forward to the flora and fauna volume...almost everything flora is a cactus there (some may be seen in my page at http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/mmaimcal/ALMAmuseum.htm) though at elevations where the Altiplanic Winter brings Amazon moisture in there can be tremendous flowerings of the desert if there has been enough precipitation. Of course, that is bad for observing so on our site this doesn't occur often. Clear skies, Al On 8/10/06, aroid-l-request@gizmoworks.com +More wrote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:04:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Cleaning Arum seed To: "Discussion of aroids" Message-ID: <471E2B0E09E14643942D99FC6AD54E66C7F968@MBGMail01.mobot.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Al: I treat all aroid seeds the same way. Macerate them in a screened sieve, pass water through the sieve until much of the mesocarp, the sugars pass through, chuck the contents in a fruit jar and shake vigorously then decant the debris. Since the seeds are typicall heavier than the rest they sink to the bottom. If you do this several times you come up with a fairly clean batch of seeds. Some times toward the end I slap the lot onto a large piece of newspaper and simply pick out the troublesome bits. Are you really living in Chile? It is strange since this is the only country in Latin America with no native aroids. I am curious, nevertheless, if there are lots of aroids in cultivation there. Tom -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Alwyn Wootten Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:57 AM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Cleaning Arum seed Folks, For the first time I have a nice fruiting stalk on my Arum italicum. I checked for help with cleaning the seeds on hort.net archives but was unsuccessful, though I feel sure I've seen this discussed. Can anyone lend advice? Thanks, Clear skies, Al -- Al Wootten, Interim Project Scientist ALMA, 40 El Golf, Piso 18 Las Condes, Santiago, Chile Tel: (56) (2) 467-6128 FAX: (56) (2) 467-6103 _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Tom Croat" Thomas.Croat at mobot.org> on 2006.08.11 at 02:57:06(14492) DearAl: I had forgotten that you were an astronomer. I would love to see this telescope site. In 1962 I intended to take the road from Mendoza to Santiago but it was in July and the road was closed with snow so I never made the journey. Have you ever driven south of Santiago very far. Can you drive all the way down to the tip of Argentina? I would like to do it sometime. I will look at your attachments tomorrow when I am on the fast connection at the Garden. Tom +More -----Original Message----- [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]On Behalf Of Alwyn Wootten Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:11 PM To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject: [Aroid-l] Re: Aroid-l Digest, Vol 25, Issue 9 Hi Tom and Nancy Thanks! I noticed that the fauna were getting there first so I cut the stalks and I'll try the maceration tango you describe. The Arum in question is here in Charlottesville this is one of the Arum italicum varieties with silver veins, quite nice. I like it because it is up and pretty in the winter when nothing else is, so it sits where the lilies are in summer by the walk. I'm in Santiago from September through mid-December. The ALMA telescope isn't far from Salta, Argentina (if one attacks the unpaved Jama road over the Andes); some day I mean to try to go see a Synandrospadix vermitoxicus in the wild. And to get to the Amazon. But in Santiago all aroids are cultivated, though it is a rare house or apartment building in Las Condes which doesn't have a garden full of the usual suspects. So far I've spent more time wandering around the various reserve areas than seeking out botanical gardens there. The project published a volume this week on the archaeology of our telescope site; a second volume on the flora and fauna is in the works. A pdf of the Spanish version (English version still in production) is available at www.nrao.cl if anyone is interested. I'm looking forward to the flora and fauna volume...almost everything flora is a cactus there (some may be seen in my page at http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/mmaimcal/ALMAmuseum.htm) though at elevations where the Altiplanic Winter brings Amazon moisture in there can be tremendous flowerings of the desert if there has been enough precipitation. Of course, that is bad for observing so on our site this doesn't occur often. Clear skies, Al On 8/10/06, aroid-l-request@gizmoworks.com wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:04:05 -0500 > From: "Tom Croat" > Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Cleaning Arum seed > To: "Discussion of aroids" > Message-ID: > <471E2B0E09E14643942D99FC6AD54E66C7F968@MBGMail01.mobot.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Al: > > I treat all aroid seeds the same way. Macerate them in a > screened sieve, pass water through the sieve until much of the mesocarp, > the sugars pass through, chuck the contents in a fruit jar and shake > vigorously then decant the debris. Since the seeds are typicall heavier > than the rest they sink to the bottom. If you do this several times you > come up with a fairly clean batch of seeds. Some times toward the end I > slap the lot onto a large piece of newspaper and simply pick out the > troublesome bits. > > Are you really living in Chile? It is strange since this is the > only country in Latin America with no native aroids. I am curious, > nevertheless, if there are lots of aroids in cultivation there. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com > [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Alwyn Wootten > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:57 AM > To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > Subject: [Aroid-l] Cleaning Arum seed > > Folks, > > For the first time I have a nice fruiting stalk on my Arum italicum. > I checked for help with cleaning the seeds on hort.net archives but > was unsuccessful, though I feel sure I've seen this discussed. Can > anyone lend advice? > > Thanks, > Clear skies, > Al > -- > Al Wootten, Interim Project Scientist > ALMA, 40 El Golf, Piso 18 > Las Condes, Santiago, Chile > Tel: (56) (2) 467-6128 FAX: (56) (2) 467-6103 > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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