Philodendron adamantinum?

From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2006.07.11 at 21:17:33(14419) Several times over the years people have wondered about some of the rarer Meconostigma, like Philodendron adamantinum.I bought a putative specimen of this species from Brian last year and it has grown a bit, and I'm at pains to know whether this is really the correct species.....I also found a pic of the adult form on the web. http://blueboard.com/aroid/index.php?topic1I would also like to know whether the very large meconostigma that Dr. Croat mentioned from his trip to South America has ever been cultured (there was some talk about Ron (?) doing this):"The trip back to the south was just as slow but since we knew what we were up against there was lessapprehension. Among the most interesting species collected was a huge Philodendron that was common in the old leaf bases of a large palm tree. This species, which is probably new +More to science, is among the largest species of Philodendron that I have ever seen with sinnuate leaf blades to 165 cm long. Because of the undulate margins I first considered that it might be P. undulatum but that species has blades less than 80 cm long and interpetiolar squamulae up to 8 mm long whereas this unknown specieshas tiny scales 2 mm or less long and much larger blades."_______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Ron Weeks" rhweeks at attglobal.net> on 2006.07.12 at 03:05:17(14420) The Brazilian philodendron seed has been available for over thirty years. Few of the rare mecanostigmas are even in collections and definitely not in cultivation. You draw the conclusion. The giant philodendron might be P. maximum. It is not a mecanostigma. The largest leaf I had was 76", 193cm, or 4.171240395 Greek cubits. I do not know of any philodendron with a larger leaf blade. There might be a few plants with leaves 36-48" available at the Aroid Show. My seedlings are still very tiny. -Ron Weeks +More On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:17:33 -0400, a san juan wrote: Several times over the years people have wondered about some of the rarer Meconostigma, like Philodendron adamantinum. I bought a putative specimen of this species from Brian last year and it has grown a bit, and I'm at pains to know whether this is really the correct species.....I also found a pic of the adult form on the web. http://blueboard.com/aroid/index.php?topic1 I would also like to know whether the very large meconostigma that Dr. Croat mentioned from his trip to South America has ever been cultured (there was some talk about Ron (?) doing this): "The trip back to the south was just as slow but since we knew what we were up against there was lessapprehension. Among the most interesting species collected was a huge Philodendron that was common in the old leaf bases of a large palm tree. This species, which is probably new to science, is among the largest species of Philodendron that I have ever seen with sinnuate leaf blades to 165 cm long. Because of the undulate margins I first considered that it might be P. undulatum but that species has blades less than 80 cm long and interpetiolar squamulae up to 8 mm long whereas this unknown specieshas tiny scales 2 mm or less long and much larger blades." _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Ken Mosher ken at spatulacity.com> on 2006.07.12 at 04:08:30(14421) Forgive me, but P. adamantinum doesn't have anything to do with a metal endoskeleton being grafted into a mutant aroid, does it? Perhaps when it sees a non-aroid competing for scarce jungle resources it lashes out and slices the intruder to ribbony bits? Perhaps it augments the spadix in ways we all can only dream of? OK, end of joke. And I swear I won't make any more mutant-powered spadix jokes until Lord P has had a turn. -Ken +More Ron Weeks wrote: The Brazilian philodendron seed has been available for over thirty years. Few of the rare mecanostigmas are even in collections and definitely not in cultivation. You draw the conclusion. The giant philodendron might be P. maximum. It is not a mecanostigma. The largest leaf I had was 76", 193cm, or 4.171240395 Greek cubits. I do not know of any philodendron with a larger leaf blade. There might be a few plants with leaves 36-48" available at the Aroid Show. My seedlings are still very tiny. -Ron Weeks On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:17:33 -0400, a san juan wrote: Several times over the years people have wondered about some of the rarer Meconostigma, like Philodendron adamantinum. I bought a putative specimen of this species from Brian last year and it has grown a bit, and I'm at pains to know whether this is really the correct species.....I also found a pic of the adult form on the web. http://blueboard.com/aroid/index.php?topic1 I would also like to know whether the very large meconostigma that Dr. Croat mentioned from his trip to South America has ever been cultured (there was some talk about Ron (?) doing this): "The trip back to the south was just as slow but since we knew what we were up against there was lessapprehension. Among the most interesting species collected was a huge Philodendron that was common in the old leaf bases of a large palm tree. This species, which is probably new to science, is among the largest species of Philodendron that I have ever seen with sinnuate leaf blades to 165 cm long. Because of the undulate margins I first considered that it might be P. undulatum but that species has blades less than 80 cm long and interpetiolar squamulae up to 8 mm long whereas this unknown specieshas tiny scales 2 mm or less long and much larger blades." _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Brian Williams pugturd at alltel.net> on 2006.07.12 at 12:20:03(14425) Brian here. What I sold you probably was not correctly named. They were seed grown out of Brazil and many were not labled right and some I have no Idea what they really are. I put a statment in the auctions that they were seed grown and sold to me as each species but could not be for sure until they were fully grown. As they grew out more and more I found that putting a name to any of them would be hard so I stopped selling them. I did get three forms of climbers out of the seeds that do seem to be correctly named and the selfheading forms may all be selloum as I hear it can vary alot but some have almost no cuts in the leaves to some with highly extremely cut leaves. But non of them seem to look exactly alike or like the species they were suppose to be. I have photos of many of the seedlings I will try to post so up to see if I can get any ID. I would think it would be hard to ID any of them. +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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