Which Arum ?

From: Baumfarn Webmaster webmaster at baumfarn.at> on 2006.05.14 at 22:30:58(14187) Is it an Arum? I think so... but what kind? http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200001.jpg http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200002.jpg Danke +More Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------------- treeferns & aroids: http://www.baumfarn.at/treefern (http://www.baumfarn.at) --------------------------------------------------- Amorphophallus network: http://www.amorphophallus.baumfarn.at/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Peter Boyce" botanist at malesiana.com> on 2006.05.15 at 09:46:23(14189) Hi Peter Inflorescence is really too hold to name to accuracy; it's either Arum maculatum, A. byzantinum or possibly A. orientale. My bet is the first. What shape are the tubers? Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:30 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? Is it an Arum? I think so... but what kind? http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200001.jpg http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200002.jpg Danke Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------------- treeferns & aroids: http://www.baumfarn.at/treefern (http://www.baumfarn.at) --------------------------------------------------- Amorphophallus network: http://www.amorphophallus.baumfarn.at/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Ágoston János" agoston.janos at citromail.hu> on 2006.05.15 at 11:09:59(14190) Dear Peter,Last year my Arum orientale had a similar flower, from this picture I think we cannot tell what is the botanical name of it. Can you post a picture from the leaves? And a picture from the flowers at the bottom of the inflorescence. From those they might be able to tell the name.Best Wishes,Jani -- Eredeti ?zenet -- Felad?: Baumfarn Webmaster C?mzett: Discussion of aroids M?solat: +More Elk?ldve: 04:12 T?ma: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ?Is it an Arum? I think so... but what kind?http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200001.jpghttp://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200002.jpgDankePeter---------------------------------------------------------------------------treeferns & aroids: http://www.baumfarn.at/treefern (http://www.baumfarn.at)---------------------------------------------------Amorphophallus network: http://www.amorphophallus.baumfarn.at/_______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _________________________________________ INTERNETES NYELVTANUL?S! Tanulj meg 2006-ban ANGOLUL, N?MET?L a M?diab?val!3 F?le intenzit?s; 3 Szint; Hanganyag CD-k; Ingyenes konzult?ci?!B?vebb inform?ci? ?s jelentkez?s... _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Baumfarn Webmaster webmaster at baumfarn.at> on 2006.05.15 at 16:03:57(14193) thanks to all for the first answers! :-) Here are the leave pics: http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200003.jpg http://www.baumfarn.at/img_tmp/Arum%20spec.%20small%200004.jpg The tubers are quite flat and small allthough already flowering. They grows in Vienna, Austria (w/o kangaroos!) thanks Peter +More --------------------------------------------------------------------------- treeferns & aroids: http://www.baumfarn.at/treefern (http://www.baumfarn.at) --------------------------------------------------- Amorphophallus network: http://www.amorphophallus.baumfarn.at/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.05.17 at 20:48:43(14221) Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is hard to find. Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com > > _______________________________________________> Aroid-l mailing list> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l> Attachment: Philodedron variifolium copy.jpg Description: JPEG image _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Ron Weeks" rhweeks at attglobal.net> on 2006.05.18 at 03:37:08(14225) Steve, We found it in NE Ecuador nearly into Columbia. Leaves were 18" long and did not loose the silver color. It is a jewel. I have flowered it but pollination failed. Charlie McDaniel sold totem of it at the aroid show last year. More should be available this year for those who missed it. -Ron +More On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48:43 -0400, Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest wrote: Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is hard to find. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l Attachment: P7010375r.jpg Description: JPEG image _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.05.18 at 06:29:02(14226) Thanks! Do you know where I can find a copy of the technical description? So far I've been unable to find one. Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? Steve, We found it in NE Ecuador nearly into Columbia. Leaves were 18" long and did not loose the silver color. It is a jewel. I have flowered it but pollination failed. Charlie McDaniel sold totem of it at the aroid show last year. More should be available this year for those who missed it. -Ron On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48:43 -0400, Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest wrote: Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is hard to find. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Tom Vincze philofan at philodendron.org> on 2006.05.18 at 07:29:19(14227) Hi Ron, Here is a photo of it during the show. But it was labeled 'Picta'. Is it safe to call it p. variifolium now? Regards, Tom Vincze +More Steve, We found it in NE Ecuador nearly into Columbia. Leaves were 18" long and did not loose the silver color. It is a jewel. I have flowered it but pollination failed. Charlie McDaniel sold totem of it at the aroid show last year. More should be available this year for those who missed it. -Ron On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48:43 -0400, Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest wrote: Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is hard to find. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Carla Kostelac" Carla.Kostelac at mobot.org> on 2006.05.18 at 20:39:04(14229) Hi, Steve- I found this description on w3Tropicos. Maybe it will help you until you find a more complete one. Best, Carla Kostelac +More w3TROPICOS Exsiccatae Data Base Collection index key: LEIMBECK 240 -- specimen id {01420475} Current det - Philodendron variifolium cf. Schott ARACEAE Det by - T.B. Croat, 1999 Previous determinations: Philodendron variifolium Schott Det by: q Date changed - 12 Jul 2000 Philodendron Schott Det by: Date changed - 05 May 2000 Collection Information: Ecuador, Napo Vicinity: Yasuni Elevation: 210 m Coordinates: 00.39S 076.24W Collector(s): Ralf Leimbeck Collection number: 240 Collection date: 24 May 1999 Herbaria: AAU Specimen data: Scandent epiphyte; internodes 5-10 cm long, greyish-green; petioles sheathed to 1/2 of their length, terete; midrib raised, flat on upper surface, convex and paler green on lower surface; primary lateral veins sunken on upper, raised on lower surface; lamina cordate, 90 sinus between lobes, upper surface dark green, glossy, lower surface medium green with whitish spots, glossy -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:29 AM To: Discussion of aroids Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? Thanks! Do you know where I can find a copy of the technical description? So far I've been unable to find one. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? > Steve, > We found it in NE Ecuador nearly into Columbia. Leaves were 18" long and > did not loose the silver color. It is a jewel. I have flowered it but > pollination failed. Charlie McDaniel sold totem of it at the aroid show > last year. More should be available this year for those who missed it. > -Ron > > On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48:43 -0400, Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest > wrote: > >> Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a >> couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is >> hard to find. >> >> Steve Lucas >> www.ExoticRainforest.com >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aroid-l mailing list >>> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >>> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest" steve at exoticrainforest.com> on 2006.05.21 at 01:41:27(14242) Thanks! The problem is I cannot find the technical description listed with this reference. Am I missing it somewhere? Steve Lucas +More www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Carla Kostelac To: Discussion of aroids Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? Hi, Steve- I found this description on w3Tropicos. Maybe it will help you until you find a more complete one. Best, Carla Kostelac w3TROPICOS Exsiccatae Data Base Collection index key: LEIMBECK 240 -- specimen id {01420475} Current det - Philodendron variifolium cf. Schott ARACEAE Det by - T.B. Croat, 1999 Previous determinations: Philodendron variifolium Schott Det by: q Date changed - 12 Jul 2000 Philodendron Schott Det by: Date changed - 05 May 2000 Collection Information: Ecuador, Napo Vicinity: Yasuni Elevation: 210 m Coordinates: 00.39S 076.24W Collector(s): Ralf Leimbeck Collection number: 240 Collection date: 24 May 1999 Herbaria: AAU Specimen data: Scandent epiphyte; internodes 5-10 cm long, greyish-green; petioles sheathed to 1/2 of their length, terete; midrib raised, flat on upper surface, convex and paler green on lower surface; primary lateral veins sunken on upper, raised on lower surface; lamina cordate, 90 sinus between lobes, upper surface dark green, glossy, lower surface medium green with whitish spots, glossy -----Original Message-----From: Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest [mailto:steve@exoticrainforest.com] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:29 AMTo: Discussion of aroidsSubject: Re: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? Thanks! Do you know where I can find a copy of the technical description? So far I've been unable to find one. Steve Lucas www.ExoticRainforest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Weeks" To: "Discussion of aroids" Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Which Arum ? > Steve, > We found it in NE Ecuador nearly into Columbia. Leaves were 18" long and > did not loose the silver color. It is a jewel. I have flowered it but > pollination failed. Charlie McDaniel sold totem of it at the aroid show > last year. More should be available this year for those who missed it. > -Ron > > On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:48:43 -0400, Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest > wrote: > >> Does anyone know anything about Philodendron variifolium? I've got a >> couple of these but information, other than it is a native of Peru, is >> hard to find. >> >> Steve Lucas >> www.ExoticRainforest.com >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aroid-l mailing list >>> Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >>> http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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