blooming all at once

From: john s smolowe johnssmolowe at pacbell.net> on 2006.01.30 at 00:31:19(13784) to me the fact that they are of one clone doesn't address the mystery. how does the plant know? what is the trigger, given that it can't be, say, the 15th spring if plants are blooming at the same time in the northern and southern hemisphere? to me, it's an extreme example of a more common mystery. many plants continue to flower in the spring of their country of origin even when moved to the opposite hemishere. even when they are grown from seed and even, in many cases, when the seed has been dormant for years. how can a seed keep track of time? john +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: hermine hermine at endangeredspecies.com> on 2006.01.30 at 08:13:46(13789) even when they are grown from seed and even, in many cases, when the seed has been dormant for years. how can a seed keep track of time? john I dunno. but bamboo flowers ubiquitously, all bamboo of the same clone, everything from mature forests to tiny small recently propagated plants. so it is not unknown as a mode of plant behaviour. bamboo does this worldwide. hermine +More _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.01.31 at 22:50:52(13793) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Monday, January 30, 2006 12:31 AM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject : [Aroid-l] Re: blooming all at once Dear John and Friends, I tend to see what John is saying---what Pete had suggested, that the blooming was somehow ingrained into the genes of that one clone so that they all bloomed at once, no matter where in the word they grew, made some sense, but thinking about it, I could 'buy this' for the FIRST blooming, as perhaps as Pete suggested, like in a mammal attaining puberty, and if a mammal were cloned, ALL would attain this at the same time. BUT---what about the second and third blooming, etc.?? Surely their inner 'clock' would and could not signal all these plants spread all over the world and growing under way different conditions to 'wait' 20 or so years AFTER the initial blooming and then, ''wham', all bloom together again?? What a good thing to have this true mystery in an aroid!! Good Growing, Julius +More to me the fact that they are of one clone doesn't address the mystery. how does the plant know? what is the trigger, given that it can't be, say, the 15th spring if plants are blooming at the same time in the northern and southern hemisphere? to me, it's an extreme example of a more common mystery. many plants continue to flower in the spring of their country of origin even when moved to the opposite hemishere. even when they are grown from seed and even, in many cases, when the seed has been dormant for years. how can a seed keep track of time? john _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Peter Boyce" botanist at malesiana.com> on 2006.02.02 at 20:48:09(13800) Well, it might all sound unlikely but with numrous species, of which sevearl of the bamboos ae the most familiar, this is exactly what happens. Perhaps even more bizzarly, forest trees in the Bignoniaceae and also the genus Ficus flower simulataneously over enormous tracts of forest and they are SEED raised and not identical clones. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:50 AM Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Re: blooming all at once Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Monday, January 30, 2006 12:31 AM To : aroid-l@gizmoworks.com Subject : [Aroid-l] Re: blooming all at once Dear John and Friends, I tend to see what John is saying---what Pete had suggested, that the blooming was somehow ingrained into the genes of that one clone so that they all bloomed at once, no matter where in the word they grew, made some sense, but thinking about it, I could 'buy this' for the FIRST blooming, as perhaps as Pete suggested, like in a mammal attaining puberty, and if a mammal were cloned, ALL would attain this at the same time. BUT---what about the second and third blooming, etc.?? Surely their inner 'clock' would and could not signal all these plants spread all over the world and growing under way different conditions to 'wait' 20 or so years AFTER the initial blooming and then, ''wham', all bloom together again?? What a good thing to have this true mystery in an aroid!! Good Growing, Julius to me the fact that they are of one clone doesn't address the mystery. how does the plant know? what is the trigger, given that it can't be, say, the 15th spring if plants are blooming at the same time in the northern and southern hemisphere? to me, it's an extreme example of a more common mystery. many plants continue to flower in the spring of their country of origin even when moved to the opposite hemishere. even when they are grown from seed and even, in many cases, when the seed has been dormant for years. how can a seed keep track of time? john _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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