Collecting climbers.

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.01.15 at 11:17:41(13703) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:59 PM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. Having been born and raised in tropical jungles, I too can appreciate your experiences, as I too have climbed MANY a jungle giant, through wasps, ants and sometimes scorpions hidden in spiny clumps of Bromeliads, when after an aroid or an orchid in daylight, and have gone after several tree-boas up in the canopy at night too! Ah, the follies of youth! (and way too late into adulthood!). Also, you have not LIVED until you have tried unsucessfully to extricate the rhizome of an Anaphyllopsis or Urospatha sp., deeply buried 2 ft. or more in putrid, black swamp mud, intertwined in the wire-like roots of a tropical mangrove. Swarming stinging-ants, mosquitos, black stinging flies, sweat bees and those small, flesh-eating wasps that alight on ones face, or enter ones pants legs (and try to remove small bits of flesh from the tip of intimate areas), and then sting when swatted at, are best ignored under these conditions! Now THAT is having FUN!!! On a more serious note, has any progress been made into solving the sincronized/simultanous and seemingly world-wide blooming of the var. form of Epipremnum, seemingly much like that which occurs in some species of Bamboo?? Has it bloomed since the last recorded mass blooming, which I believe wasi back in the 60`s??? There is an actual report/article recording this mass blooming in an early Aroideana! The Very Best, Julius +More Yeah, yeah, I AGREE but Julius, you simply cannot believe the fun of, in the rain, spotting an aroid climber blossoming at the top of a large tree, climbing said tree (which naturally has several large nests of aggressive stinging ants (you know the kind, they clamp on with their huge mandibles to gain better purchase to sting)) and just as you reach the base of the pertinent branch all the movement you've set up sends the spathe falling past; you make a grab for it, in so doing you catch your foot in the climbing stems, in the process ripping of the (naturally solitary) inflorescence which also falls but instead of reaching the ground lodges in the branches of an adjacent (fiercely thorny) tree in which hangs a large hornet nest, the force of the inflorescence striking the tree agitates the hornets which then attack... Ah! How can I not LOVE climbers May I echo you Wilbert & everyone elses contributions to the IAS page Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. From : Peter Boyce Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Friday, January 13, 2006 7:37 AM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Dear Peter, Wilbert and Friends-- Hey Pete---I agree! Imagine this little short-shift, unifoliate little dwarf of an aroid, exquisitly beautiful as it might be, with only its ONE cordate leaf (no splits or fenestrations here!), having the audacity to produce such wonderfully marked, MULTIPLE blooms, AND NOT allowing these beautifully marked spathes to fall off soon after opening, like some other self-respecting, TRUE climbing marvels of the Aroid-world have the decency to do, leaving just a bare, white (but I`m certain quite attractive and interesting, mind you!) spadix! Some of these climbers may bloom just about once every twenty to forty years or so, but I`m certain that to experience the pleasure of seeing such a plain white spathe or bare spadix is well worth the wait!! :--)> (all in fun, guys!) Hey, congrats again to all, and good growing! Julius Hrumph! While I admit that Colletogyne is rather nice I my heart still flutters most when presented with a colossal Epipremnum or Rhaphidophora... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" To: "Aroid-l" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Hi Folks, For all you lovers of the REALLY exquisite (and that only to be found among tuberous aroids) Albert and I have prepared a page on Colletogyne, a small gem. Just been rediscovered. have fun at: http://www.aroid.org/genera/colletogyne/ Cheerio, Wilbert p.s. all you lovers of climbing aroids, THIS is the moment to switch to the REAL thing and we won't hold it against you....but it IS the LAST chance!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Peter Boyce" botanist at malesiana.com> on 2006.01.18 at 09:14:53(13711) Julius I suspect that E.aureum (syn E. pinnatum 'Aureum') in cultivation is clonal (with various somatic forms having arisen and been maintained over the decades) and that the syncronized flowering is because it's all one (very shy flowering) plant. Pete +More ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Collecting climbers. Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:59 PM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. Having been born and raised in tropical jungles, I too can appreciate your experiences, as I too have climbed MANY a jungle giant, through wasps, ants and sometimes scorpions hidden in spiny clumps of Bromeliads, when after an aroid or an orchid in daylight, and have gone after several tree-boas up in the canopy at night too! Ah, the follies of youth! (and way too late into adulthood!). Also, you have not LIVED until you have tried unsucessfully to extricate the rhizome of an Anaphyllopsis or Urospatha sp., deeply buried 2 ft. or more in putrid, black swamp mud, intertwined in the wire-like roots of a tropical mangrove. Swarming stinging-ants, mosquitos, black stinging flies, sweat bees and those small, flesh-eating wasps that alight on ones face, or enter ones pants legs (and try to remove small bits of flesh from the tip of intimate areas), and then sting when swatted at, are best ignored under these conditions! Now THAT is having FUN!!! On a more serious note, has any progress been made into solving the sincronized/simultanous and seemingly world-wide blooming of the var. form of Epipremnum, seemingly much like that which occurs in some species of Bamboo?? Has it bloomed since the last recorded mass blooming, which I believe wasi back in the 60`s??? There is an actual report/article recording this mass blooming in an early Aroideana! The Very Best, Julius Yeah, yeah, I AGREE but Julius, you simply cannot believe the fun of, in the rain, spotting an aroid climber blossoming at the top of a large tree, climbing said tree (which naturally has several large nests of aggressive stinging ants (you know the kind, they clamp on with their huge mandibles to gain better purchase to sting)) and just as you reach the base of the pertinent branch all the movement you've set up sends the spathe falling past; you make a grab for it, in so doing you catch your foot in the climbing stems, in the process ripping of the (naturally solitary) inflorescence which also falls but instead of reaching the ground lodges in the branches of an adjacent (fiercely thorny) tree in which hangs a large hornet nest, the force of the inflorescence striking the tree agitates the hornets which then attack... Ah! How can I not LOVE climbers May I echo you Wilbert & everyone elses contributions to the IAS page Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Friday, January 13, 2006 7:37 AM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Dear Peter, Wilbert and Friends-- Hey Pete---I agree! Imagine this little short-shift, unifoliate little dwarf of an aroid, exquisitly beautiful as it might be, with only its ONE cordate leaf (no splits or fenestrations here!), having the audacity to produce such wonderfully marked, MULTIPLE blooms, AND NOT allowing these beautifully marked spathes to fall off soon after opening, like some other self-respecting, TRUE climbing marvels of the Aroid-world have the decency to do, leaving just a bare, white (but I`m certain quite attractive and interesting, mind you!) spadix! Some of these climbers may bloom just about once every twenty to forty years or so, but I`m certain that to experience the pleasure of seeing such a plain white spathe or bare spadix is well worth the wait!! :--)> (all in fun, guys!) Hey, congrats again to all, and good growing! Julius Hrumph! While I admit that Colletogyne is rather nice I my heart still flutters most when presented with a colossal Epipremnum or Rhaphidophora... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" To: "Aroid-l" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Hi Folks, For all you lovers of the REALLY exquisite (and that only to be found among tuberous aroids) Albert and I have prepared a page on Colletogyne, a small gem. Just been rediscovered. have fun at: http://www.aroid.org/genera/colletogyne/ Cheerio, Wilbert p.s. all you lovers of climbing aroids, THIS is the moment to switch to the REAL thing and we won't hold it against you....but it IS the LAST chance!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2006.01.18 at 22:10:37(13718) Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:14 AM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Collecting climbers. Dear Pete, That all E. pinnatum 'Aureum' probably all came from/originated from one collected clone is probably correct, but I wonder as to the 'why'/cause of all these many plants, distributed all over the world, and thus presumably subjected to different growing/light conditions, just all at the same time up and blooming, especially after NOT doing so for many yeasr between bloomings. I think the intrim in this case is somewhere around 30 + years! I know that some bamboos do it, even when on opposite sides of the world, much like this plant!! What an interesting thing. Any further ideas?? The best, Julius +More Julius I suspect that E.aureum (syn E. pinnatum 'Aureum') in cultivation is clonal (with various somatic forms having arisen and been maintained over the decades) and that the syncronized flowering is because it's all one (very shy flowering) plant. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Collecting climbers. From : Peter Boyce Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:59 PM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. Having been born and raised in tropical jungles, I too can appreciate your experiences, as I too have climbed MANY a jungle giant, through wasps, ants and sometimes scorpions hidden in spiny clumps of Bromeliads, when after an aroid or an orchid in daylight, and have gone after several tree-boas up in the canopy at night too! Ah, the follies of youth! (and way too late into adulthood!). Also, you have not LIVED until you have tried unsucessfully to extricate the rhizome of an Anaphyllopsis or Urospatha sp., deeply buried 2 ft. or more in putrid, black swamp mud, intertwined in the wire-like roots of a tropical mangrove. Swarming stinging-ants, mosquitos, black stinging flies, sweat bees and those small, flesh-eating wasps that alight on ones face, or enter ones pants legs (and try to remove small bits of flesh from the tip of intimate areas), and then sting when swatted at, are best ignored under these conditions! Now THAT is having FUN!!! On a more serious note, has any progress been made into solving the sincronized/simultanous and seemingly world-wide blooming of the var. form of Epipremnum, seemingly much like that which occurs in some species of Bamboo?? Has it bloomed since the last recorded mass blooming, which I believe wasi back in the 60`s??? There is an actual report/article recording this mass blooming in an early Aroideana! The Very Best, Julius Yeah, yeah, I AGREE but Julius, you simply cannot believe the fun of, in the rain, spotting an aroid climber blossoming at the top of a large tree, climbing said tree (which naturally has several large nests of aggressive stinging ants (you know the kind, they clamp on with their huge mandibles to gain better purchase to sting)) and just as you reach the base of the pertinent branch all the movement you've set up sends the spathe falling past; you make a grab for it, in so doing you catch your foot in the climbing stems, in the process ripping of the (naturally solitary) inflorescence which also falls but instead of reaching the ground lodges in the branches of an adjacent (fiercely thorny) tree in which hangs a large hornet nest, the force of the inflorescence striking the tree agitates the hornets which then attack... Ah! How can I not LOVE climbers May I echo you Wilbert & everyone elses contributions to the IAS page Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julius Boos" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne vs. climbers. Reply-To : Discussion of aroids Sent : Friday, January 13, 2006 7:37 AM To : "Discussion of aroids" Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Dear Peter, Wilbert and Friends-- Hey Pete---I agree! Imagine this little short-shift, unifoliate little dwarf of an aroid, exquisitly beautiful as it might be, with only its ONE cordate leaf (no splits or fenestrations here!), having the audacity to produce such wonderfully marked, MULTIPLE blooms, AND NOT allowing these beautifully marked spathes to fall off soon after opening, like some other self-respecting, TRUE climbing marvels of the Aroid-world have the decency to do, leaving just a bare, white (but I`m certain quite attractive and interesting, mind you!) spadix! Some of these climbers may bloom just about once every twenty to forty years or so, but I`m certain that to experience the pleasure of seeing such a plain white spathe or bare spadix is well worth the wait!! :--)> (all in fun, guys!) Hey, congrats again to all, and good growing! Julius Hrumph! While I admit that Colletogyne is rather nice I my heart still flutters most when presented with a colossal Epipremnum or Rhaphidophora... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" To: "Aroid-l" Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: [Aroid-l] Colletogyne on IAS website Hi Folks, For all you lovers of the REALLY exquisite (and that only to be found among tuberous aroids) Albert and I have prepared a page on Colletogyne, a small gem. Just been rediscovered. have fun at: http://www.aroid.org/genera/colletogyne/ Cheerio, Wilbert p.s. all you lovers of climbing aroids, THIS is the moment to switch to the REAL thing and we won't hold it against you....but it IS the LAST chance!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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