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From: Joe Flaherty joeflaherty at usa.net> on 2005.07.21 at 22:35:19(13211)
I noticed in cactus and succulents that women prefer rounder succulents and
men the bigger more architectural cacti and succulents.
joe
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Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:49:43 PM CDT
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Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession?
And because of me, we have more aroids with simple inflorescence than the
roses, orchids, etc, which my husband prefers. Do add our tally to the
count!
Christian and Bill
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession?
I think women are rather attracted by wonderful flowers (anthuria, roses,
orchids), especially big and scented. Men are analysts, want to know what's
inside, what is it made of, how it works...
Me
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Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession?
Hi guys:
There was interesting discussion about why most Palm
enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were guys
and not women.
Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or
women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and
women to others?
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From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.22 at 00:35:30(13215)
"women prefer rounder succulents"
Thus, my reputation as a "babe magnet" - ROTFLOL!
--- Joe Flaherty wrote:
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> I noticed in cactus and succulents that women prefer
> rounder succulents and
> men the bigger more architectural cacti and
> succulents.
>
> joe
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:49:43 PM CDT
> From: "Tropicals"
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
>
> Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
> And because of me, we have more aroids with simple
> inflorescence than the
> roses, orchids, etc, which my husband prefers. Do
> add our tally to the
> count!
>
> Christian and Bill
> www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of Abrimaal Svartvinter
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
> I think women are rather attracted by wonderful
> flowers (anthuria, roses,
> orchids), especially big and scented. Men are
> analysts, want to know what's
> inside, what is it made of, how it works...
>
> Me
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "a san juan"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:04 AM
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
>
> Hi guys:
>
> There was interesting discussion about why most Palm
> enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were
> guys
> and not women.
>
> Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or
> women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and
> women to others?
>
> ASJ
>
>
>
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From: Joe Flaherty joeflaherty at usa.net> on 2005.07.22 at 13:16:56(13221)
Maybe when you are talking on a really grand scale men could more easily
muscle palms around.
There are exceptions of course, but I think men probably would be more at ease
about taking up all the room it would take to obsess about the really larger
plants.
These are all purely general and sexist opinions of course.
joe
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Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:48 PM CDT
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession?
Ok...the reason i ask is that in Palms at least, there
are many more men than women in the meetings and
societies (and forums). Someone suggested it was
because Palms signify to guys "freedom", and "tropical
beaches with scantily-clad women", etc, etc...i'm sure
these plants signify "tropical beaches" to women too
though ;-)
My feeling is that guys tend to be less interested in
"flowers" and more interested in (as some people put
it here) the "architecture" of plants - how they look
overall, with a tendency away from frilly and bushy
plants towards straighter, larger specimens.
Personally, i've always had a tendency to like
large-leaved tropical plants with strong stems, rather
than the flowers on plants (although orchids do
attract once in awhile)....
--- ted.held@us.henkel.com wrote:
> I have been a peripheral member of several hobby
> organizations over the
> years. Here are my limited observations for growing
> and cultivating type
> organizations on this topic:
>
> African violets and gesneriads - women dominate,
> numerically
> Cryptocoryne (aroids) - men dominate overwhelmingly
> Tropical fish - men dominate overwhelmingly
> Bromeliads - roughly 50:50, with a slight edge to
> women.
>
> It would be interesting to know if these
> observations are general or if
> memberships fluctuate over different locations. This
> being an aroid list,
> we must have the records of convention attendance
> and overall membership
> for the Aroid Society.
>
> It is also interesting to record here that I am a
> chemist. When I began,
> there were very few women chemists. The newer crops
> are coming in much
> more balanced. Maybe the membership populations of
> clubs also change over
> time.
>
> Of course, there are passive members (my typical
> category) and active
> members. And there are joiners and loners. It is not
> easy to know, for
> example, if many men grow African violets but don't
> want to go to meetings
> where the members are all female. Or vice versa.
>
> Years ago my mother told me that the local garden
> club was mostly women,
> with a few ardent male gardeners. She also said that
> one thing that
> characterized the men was that they all grew
> Jack-in-a-pulpits. This is
> Zone 5, USA. I have a garden full of
> Jack-in-a-pulpits. I conform to
> profile.>
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From: Joe Flaherty joeflaherty at usa.net> on 2005.07.22 at 13:28:05(13222)
It IS funny, but I made this observation after helping set up a cactus and
succulent show in San Diego. It was really obvious when you get that many
people showing plants how these things fall almost always along the different
gender catagories.
joe
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Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:31:59 PM CDT
To: Discussion of aroids
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"women prefer rounder succulents"
Thus, my reputation as a "babe magnet" - ROTFLOL!
--- Joe Flaherty wrote:
> I noticed in cactus and succulents that women prefer
> rounder succulents and
> men the bigger more architectural cacti and
> succulents.
>
> joe
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:49:43 PM CDT
> From: "Tropicals"
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'"
>
> Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
> And because of me, we have more aroids with simple
> inflorescence than the
> roses, orchids, etc, which my husband prefers. Do
> add our tally to the
> count!
>
> Christian and Bill
> www.SolutionsAnalysis.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of Abrimaal Svartvinter
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
> I think women are rather attracted by wonderful
> flowers (anthuria, roses,
> orchids), especially big and scented. Men are
> analysts, want to know what's
> inside, what is it made of, how it works...
>
> Me
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "a san juan"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:04 AM
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
>
> Hi guys:
>
> There was interesting discussion about why most Palm
> enthusiasts (the tree, not the handheld PDA) were
> guys
> and not women.
>
> Now, I'm wondering, are there more men aroiders or
> women? Do men gravitate towards certain genera, and
> women to others?
>
> ASJ
>
>
>
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From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.22 at 17:23:55(13226)
"These are all purely general and sexist opinions of
course."
Why is it sexist to wonder why some things may have a
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tendency to attract women and men differently?
The comment about cacti and succulents actually was
interesting because when me and my wife went to
Huntington Gardens in LA, CA, USA last month, we
visited the gorgeous desert garden there and i noticed
my wife tended to exclaim over the large rounded
cacti, whereas i was more interested in the angular,
large succulents, the weirder the better.
Does this mean anything? Obviously not on a general
level, unless a significant difference or tendency can
be shown for a larger population, but it's something
interesting on a personal level anyways.
--- Joe Flaherty wrote:
> Maybe when you are talking on a really grand scale
> men could more easily
> muscle palms around.
> There are exceptions of course, but I think men
> probably would be more at ease
> about taking up all the room it would take to obsess
> about the really larger
> plants.
>
> These are all purely general and sexist opinions of
> course.
>
> joe
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:30:48 PM CDT
> From: a san juan
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity"
> obsession?
>
> Ok...the reason i ask is that in Palms at least,
> there
> are many more men than women in the meetings and
> societies (and forums). Someone suggested it was
> because Palms signify to guys "freedom", and
> "tropical
> beaches with scantily-clad women", etc, etc...i'm
> sure
> these plants signify "tropical beaches" to women too
> though ;-)
>
> My feeling is that guys tend to be less interested
> in
> "flowers" and more interested in (as some people put
> it here) the "architecture" of plants - how they
> look
> overall, with a tendency away from frilly and bushy
> plants towards straighter, larger specimens.
>
> Personally, i've always had a tendency to like
> large-leaved tropical plants with strong stems,
> rather
> than the flowers on plants (although orchids do
> attract once in awhile)....
>
>
>
> --- ted.held@us.henkel.com wrote:
>
> > I have been a peripheral member of several hobby
> > organizations over the
> > years. Here are my limited observations for
> growing
> > and cultivating type
> > organizations on this topic:
> >
> > African violets and gesneriads - women dominate,
> > numerically
> > Cryptocoryne (aroids) - men dominate
> overwhelmingly
> > Tropical fish - men dominate overwhelmingly
> > Bromeliads - roughly 50:50, with a slight edge to
> > women.
> >
> > It would be interesting to know if these
> > observations are general or if
> > memberships fluctuate over different locations.
> This
> > being an aroid list,
> > we must have the records of convention attendance
> > and overall membership
> > for the Aroid Society.
> >
> > It is also interesting to record here that I am a
> > chemist. When I began,
> > there were very few women chemists. The newer
> crops
> > are coming in much
> > more balanced. Maybe the membership populations of
> > clubs also change over
> > time.
> >
> > Of course, there are passive members (my typical
> > category) and active
> > members. And there are joiners and loners. It is
> not
> > easy to know, for
> > example, if many men grow African violets but
> don't
> > want to go to meetings
> > where the members are all female. Or vice versa.
> >
> > Years ago my mother told me that the local garden
> > club was mostly women,
> > with a few ardent male gardeners. She also said
> that
> > one thing that
> > characterized the men was that they all grew
> > Jack-in-a-pulpits. This is
> > Zone 5, USA. I have a garden full of
> > Jack-in-a-pulpits. I conform to
> > profile.>
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From: Joe Flaherty joeflaherty at usa.net> on 2005.07.22 at 18:28:07(13227)
I agree with you, it is interesting.
I think that is what makes for the scientific mind or even an enthusiastic
enthusiast. We have a heavy dose of curiosity. That's probably why naturalists
go out in tyhe wild or where man made hybrids come from.
joe
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Received: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:08:19 PM CDT
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Aroids: "Equal Opportunity" obsession?
Obviously, we are not talking absolutes here, but
generalities...much like a curve describes a natural
population, there will always be the exceptions. It's
like a guy whose Toyota goes bad then makes the
implication that Toyotas are bad in general, even
though to get a more accurate picture one needs to
look at a much larger population of Toyotas.
I am also a member of several aggregations, and there
are areas which are tilted definitely towards one
gender - hymenopterans such as ants for example
attract vastly more men than women, even thought there
are some very good women researchers and enthusiasts.
Anyways, I was just curious, since this came up in
another group....
--- Hermine Stover
wrote:
> At 01:23 PM 7/21/05, LLmen wrote:
> >>I think women are rather attracted by wonderful
> flowers (anthuria, roses,
> >>orchids), especially big and scented. Men are
> analysts, want to know
> >>what's inside, what is it made of, how it works...
> >>
> >>Me
> >
> >
> >Also, I think that men are more interested in
> "architectural" plants.
> >
> >--
> >Don Martinson
>
>
> I am an architect and i rather dislike flowers,
> roses in particular.
>
> hermine
> ps I think this is a silly subject for a thread >
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From: Don Martinson llmen at wi.rr.com> on 2005.07.22 at 23:45:05(13228)
Why is it sexist to wonder why some things may have a
tendency to attract women and men differently?
I'm sure Harvard University President Lawrence Summers, must have
wondered the same thing.
--
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From: a san juan kalim1998 at yahoo.com> on 2005.07.23 at 22:20:33(13231)
Except the guy was saying there are innate differeces between men and women CAPABILITIES, something quite different than wondering about WHY and IF one gender has a tendency to prefer certain things.
AS I mentioned, i belong to many different groupings, and there certainly seems to be a preference difference....glossing over it won't change reality....
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Don Martinson wrote:
>>Why is it sexist to wonder why some things may have a>tendency to attract women and men differently?I'm sure Harvard University President Lawrence Summers, must have wondered the same thing.-- Don MartinsonMilwaukee, WisconsinMailto:llmen@wi.rr.com_______________________________________________Aroid-l mailing listAroid-l@gizmoworks.comhttp://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l__________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________
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From: "Russ" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2005.09.14 at 04:02:18(13356)
Never mind, folks, mystery solved. I found 2 labels buried in potting soil
and roots of the Philos in
question from Alberts & Merkel (whether or not they could be mature plants
of 'Painted Lady'). The labels
indicated they were 'Multicolor Hybrids'....proving convincingly to me that
they are indeed McColley hybrids
from the 1960s when he was hybridizing Philos. Jean Merkle and McColley
knew each other in those days,
so it's natural that Jean would still have some of those old hybrids around.
I find this very interesting.
Anyone have conflicting data on 'Multicolor Hybrids?????????? Or can you
add information?
I'm still looking for........
P. X 'mandaianum', with reddish leaves and red stem
P. 'Emerald King' and 'Emerald Duke'
Dieff x bausii
Anyone have for trade or purchase??
Russ
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