P. adamantinum, P. saxicolum.

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.02.26 at 15:10:20(12737) Dear Friends, Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and other 'smaller' self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering seed from the S. American source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all of the seeds sold as being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), I am putting out a call to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden growers, etc. in an attampt to locate specimens of these and any other 'minature'/smaller species or vars. of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. I have seen P. saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. selloum, and so am very interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is any garden or individual out there with specimens of this or the other species mentioned, or one that I do not already know about, please contact me on my e-mail at --- ju-bo@msn.com< +More Thanks, and good growing! Julius Boos, WPB, Florida. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Eric Schmidt leu242 at yahoo.com> on 2005.03.02 at 13:39:49(12749) One that we are growing is Philodendron corcovadense. I believe it is native to southern Brazil. I had seen this growing in a yard of a house near Leu Gardens for 20 years. It is a self-header that grows 2-3ft tall and survived the 20F freeze in 12/89. Some stems froze back, some were only defoliated. It is like a small version of P. bipinnatifidum but with entire leaves. It even has that odor that P. bipinnatifidum has when a leaf is cut or broke off. I drove by that house one day and it was being renovated. The Philos were in a pile in the driveway. I stopped and asked if I could have them and they said yes. I "rescued" them and planted them out at Leu Gardens. I have never seen them for sale, hopefully they can get into tissue culture. Here is a link to a photo; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/detail?.dir£ee&.dnm£f1.jpg&.src=ph Eric Schmidt +More Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org --- Julius Boos wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and > other 'smaller' > self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering > seed from the S. American > source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all > of the seeds sold as > being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), > I am putting out a call > to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden > growers, etc. in an attampt to > locate specimens of these and any other > 'minature'/smaller species or vars. > of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. > I have seen P. > saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. > selloum, and so am very > interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is > any garden or individual > out there with specimens of this or the other > species mentioned, or one that > I do not already know about, please contact me on my > e-mail at --- > > >ju-bo@msn.com< > > Thanks, and good growing! > > Julius Boos, > WPB, > Florida. > > > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Tom philofan at philodendron.org> on 2005.03.03 at 03:21:04(12752) Sounds like a great plant find and story, Eric. Like that old saying, "One man's garbage, another man's treasure" couldn't be more true. Here is another link with a photo and description of it: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59574/index.html Monocromatico (the poster) describes it as: "This is a native plant from the southeastern brazilian coastal areas, specially around Rio de Janeiro. The specimen used to describe the species came from the Corcovado hill, where the statue of Jesus Christ is erected, so that?s why the specific name "corcovadensis", meaning "from Corcovado". The shiny bright green leaves stick out in my mind for this plant. Are there any current commercial sources for it? -Tom Vincze +More One that we are growing is Philodendron corcovadense. I believe it is native to southern Brazil. I had seen this growing in a yard of a house near Leu Gardens for 20 years. It is a self-header that grows 2-3ft tall and survived the 20F freeze in 12/89. Some stems froze back, some were only defoliated. It is like a small version of P. bipinnatifidum but with entire leaves. It even has that odor that P. bipinnatifidum has when a leaf is cut or broke off. I drove by that house one day and it was being renovated. The Philos were in a pile in the driveway. I stopped and asked if I could have them and they said yes. I "rescued" them and planted them out at Leu Gardens. I have never seen them for sale, hopefully they can get into tissue culture. Here is a link to a photo; http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/detail?.dir£ee&.dnm£f1.jpg&.src=ph Eric Schmidt Botanic Records Harry P. Leu Gardens 1920 N. Forest Ave. Orlando, FL. 32803 USA USDA Zone 9b eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net ph. # (407)-246-3749 fax # (407)-246-2849 www.leugardens.org --- Julius Boos wrote: Dear Friends, Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and other 'smaller' self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering seed from the S. American source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all of the seeds sold as being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), I am putting out a call to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden growers, etc. in an attampt to locate specimens of these and any other 'minature'/smaller species or vars. of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. I have seen P. saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. selloum, and so am very interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is any garden or individual out there with specimens of this or the other species mentioned, or one that I do not already know about, please contact me on my e-mail at --- ju-bo@msn.com< Thanks, and good growing! Julius Boos, WPB, Florida. _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Susan Bryant" coops at execpc.com> on 2005.03.03 at 13:13:18(12757) Dear ERic, Good for you to save it! And thanks for the photos, they are very good. Your Z. aethiopica 'Green Goddess' looks a little odd, but that is the fun of the Zs. susan +More > > One that we are growing is Philodendron corcovadense. > I believe it is native to southern Brazil. I had seen > this growing in a yard of a house near Leu Gardens for > 20 years. It is a self-header that grows 2-3ft tall > and survived the 20F freeze in 12/89. Some stems froze > back, some were only defoliated. It is like a small > version of P. bipinnatifidum but with entire leaves. > It even has that odor that P. bipinnatifidum has when > a leaf is cut or broke off. I drove by that house one > day and it was being renovated. The Philos were in a > pile in the driveway. I stopped and asked if I could > have them and they said yes. I "rescued" them and > planted them out at Leu Gardens. I have never seen > them for sale, hopefully they can get into tissue > culture. Here is a link to a photo; > > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/detail?.dir£ee&.dnm£f1.jpg&.s rc=ph > > > Eric Schmidt > Botanic Records > Harry P. Leu Gardens > 1920 N. Forest Ave. > Orlando, FL. 32803 USA > USDA Zone 9b > eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net > ph. # (407)-246-3749 > fax # (407)-246-2849 > www.leugardens.org > > > > > > --- Julius Boos wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and > > other 'smaller' > > self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering > > seed from the S. American > > source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all > > of the seeds sold as > > being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), > > I am putting out a call > > to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden > > growers, etc. in an attampt to > > locate specimens of these and any other > > 'minature'/smaller species or vars. > > of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. > > I have seen P. > > saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. > > selloum, and so am very > > interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is > > any garden or individual > > out there with specimens of this or the other > > species mentioned, or one that > > I do not already know about, please contact me on my > > e-mail at --- > > > > >ju-bo@msn.com< > > > > Thanks, and good growing! > > > > Julius Boos, > > WPB, > > Florida. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aroid-l mailing list > > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ > _______________________________________________ > Aroid-l mailing list > Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com > http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l > Susan _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Russ" chammer at cfl.rr.com> on 2005.03.03 at 21:39:32(12758) Eric, Is that P. corcovadense at Leu's in a public area where I could see it if I came to the garden? Looks very interesting, and an interesting story about how you came to obtain it. Russ +More Sanford county/Lake Monroe area I-4 and SR 46 _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo at msn.com> on 2005.03.06 at 15:55:55(12773) >From: Tom <philofan@philodendron.org> >Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] P. adamantinum, P. saxicolum. >Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:21:04 -0800 Dear Tom, Eric and Friends, Eric`s story reminds me of another story a friend in Miami tells, of her finding, years ago, of what she refers to as 'minature P. speciosum'. It used to grow in great quantity as a hedge in front of an old, Cuban-type home in Miami, she was able to obtain a few plants of it whenever the home-owner trimmed the hedge. Recently, as she became more aware of its rarity, she went back to look for more, the home was gone, the hedge no more. VERY sad! I have sent another post w/ a couple of questions concerning these smaller 'self-headers', hopefully it will soon be posted on the aroid-l. Good Growing, Julius +More Sounds like a great plant find and story, Eric. Like that old >saying, "One man's garbage, another man's treasure" couldn't be more true. Here is another link with a photo and description of it: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59574/index.html Monocromatico (the poster) describes it as: This is a native plant from the southeastern brazilian coastal areas, specially around Rio de Janeiro. The specimen used to describe the species came from the Corcovado hill, where the statue of Jesus Christ is erected, so that?s why the specific name "corcovadensis", meaning from Corcovado". The shiny bright green leaves stick out in my mind for this plant. >Are there any current commercial sources for it? -Tom Vincze<< > >> >>One that we are growing is Philodendron corcovadense. >>I believe it is native to southern Brazil. I had seen >>this growing in a yard of a house near Leu Gardens for >>20 years. It is a self-header that grows 2-3ft tall >>and survived the 20F freeze in 12/89. Some stems froze >>back, some were only defoliated. It is like a small >>version of P. bipinnatifidum but with entire leaves. >>It even has that odor that P. bipinnatifidum has when >>a leaf is cut or broke off. I drove by that house one >>day and it was being renovated. The Philos were in a >>pile in the driveway. I stopped and asked if I could >>have them and they said yes. I "rescued" them and >>planted them out at Leu Gardens. I have never seen >>them for sale, hopefully they can get into tissue >>culture. Here is a link to a photo; >> >>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/ >>detail?.dir£ee&.dnm£f1.jpg&.src=ph >> >> >>Eric Schmidt >>Botanic Records >>Harry P. Leu Gardens >>1920 N. Forest Ave. >>Orlando, FL. 32803 USA >>USDA Zone 9b >>eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net >>ph. # (407)-246-3749 >>fax # (407)-246-2849 >>www.leugardens.org >> >> >> >> >> >>--- Julius Boos <ju-bo@msn.com> wrote: >> >>>Dear Friends, >>> >>>Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and >>>other 'smaller' >>>self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering >>>seed from the S. American >>>source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all >>>of the seeds sold as >>>being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), >>>I am putting out a call >>>to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden >>>growers, etc. in an attampt to >>>locate specimens of these and any other >>>'minature'/smaller species or vars. >>>of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. >>>I have seen P. >>>saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. >>>selloum, and so am very >>>interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is >>>any garden or individual >>>out there with specimens of this or the other >>>species mentioned, or one that >>>I do not already know about, please contact me on my >>>e-mail at --- >>> >>>>ju-bo@msn.com< >>> >>>Thanks, and good growing! >>> >>>Julius Boos, >>>WPB, >>>Florida. >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Aroid-l mailing list >>>Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >>>http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! >>Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web >>http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ >>_______________________________________________ >>Aroid-l mailing list >>Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >>http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l >> >_______________________________________________ >Aroid-l mailing list >Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com >http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

From: Eugene Hoh hohe at symphony.net.au> on 2005.03.09 at 02:36:02(12779) hi Julius, And that reminds me of a page I saw recently on LariAnn Garner's Aroidia website, featuring Philo sp. "Dwarf Speciosum" (for which ID is requested...) which they're using for breeding - I wonder if it's the same plant. It has slim rambling stems, small blunt leaves with wavy margins, and bright reddish orange berries (unusual colour for Philodendron fruit?). Here are links: http://aroidiaresearch.org/dwfspec.htm http://aroidiaresearch.org/fruits.htm Also - re. P. adamantinum in Hawaii: In photos of Leland Miyano's garden near Honolulu (I've never been there - only seen pics, looks amazing - e.g. in William Warren's The Tropical Garden, Thames&Hudson 1991) you can sometimes see an unusual small Philo whose leaves have rather few lobes and look somewhat leathery. It resembles a drawing of P. adamantinum foliage in Simon Mayo's 'Revision of Philodendron subgenus Meconostigma' (Kew Bulletin 46, 1991), but I think some of the lateral lobes on the Miyano plant might have a secondary lobe or two. ( If Leland Miyano is still a practising landscape architect, perhaps it won't be too difficult to contact him? ) Hope this is useful. cheers Eugene +More ------ Eugene Hoh Sydney, Australia On 07/03/2005, at 2:55 AM, Julius Boos wrote: >From: Tom <philofan@philodendron.org> >Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com> >Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] P. adamantinum, P. saxicolum. >Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:21:04 -0800 Dear Tom, Eric and Friends, Eric`s story reminds me of another story a friend in Miami tells, of her finding, years ago, of what she refers to as 'minature P. speciosum'. It used to grow in great quantity as a hedge in front of an old, Cuban-type home in Miami, she was able to obtain a few plants of it whenever the home-owner trimmed the hedge. Recently, as she became more aware of its rarity, she went back to look for more, the home was gone, the hedge no more. VERY sad! I have sent another post w/ a couple of questions concerning these smaller 'self-headers', hopefully it will soon be posted on the aroid-l. Good Growing, Julius Sounds like a great plant find and story, Eric. Like that old >saying, "One man's garbage, another man's treasure" couldn't be more true. Here is another link with a photo and description of it: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59574/index.html Monocromatico (the poster) describes it as: This is a native plant from the southeastern brazilian coastal areas, specially around Rio de Janeiro. The specimen used to describe the species came from the Corcovado hill, where the statue of Jesus Christ is erected, so that?s why the specific name "corcovadensis", meaning from Corcovado". The shiny bright green leaves stick out in my mind for this plant. >Are there any current commercial sources for it? -Tom Vincze<< > >> >>One that we are growing is Philodendron corcovadense. >>I believe it is native to southern Brazil. I had seen >>this growing in a yard of a house near Leu Gardens for >>20 years. It is a self-header that grows 2-3ft tall >>and survived the 20F freeze in 12/89. Some stems froze >>back, some were only defoliated. It is like a small >>version of P. bipinnatifidum but with entire leaves. >>It even has that odor that P. bipinnatifidum has when >>a leaf is cut or broke off. I drove by that house one >>day and it was being renovated. The Philos were in a >>pile in the driveway. I stopped and asked if I could >>have them and they said yes. I "rescued" them and >>planted them out at Leu Gardens. I have never seen >>them for sale, hopefully they can get into tissue >>culture. Here is a link to a photo; >> >>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/leuaroid/ >>detail?.dir£ee&.dnm£f1.jpg&.src=ph >> >> >>Eric Schmidt >>Botanic Records >>Harry P. Leu Gardens >>1920 N. Forest Ave. >>Orlando, FL. 32803 USA >>USDA Zone 9b >>eric.schmidt@cityoforlando.net >>ph. # (407)-246-3749 >>fax # (407)-246-2849 >>www.leugardens.org >> >> >> >> >> >>--- Julius Boos <ju-bo@msn.com> wrote: >> >>>Dear Friends, >>> >>>Well, after a miserable failure to obtain these and >>>other 'smaller' >>>self-heading species of Philodendron by ordering >>>seed from the S. American >>>source ( as far as I can determine, most if not all >>>of the seeds sold as >>>being these species have grown to be P. 'selloum'), >>>I am putting out a call >>>to all you members, lurkers, Botanical garden >>>growers, etc. in an attampt to >>>locate specimens of these and any other >>>'minature'/smaller species or vars. >>>of the arborescent / "self heading" Philodendrons. >>>I have seen P. >>>saxicolum 'in the flesh', also the TRUE minature P. >>>selloum, and so am very >>>interested in seeing a P. adamantinum, if there is >>>any garden or individual >>>out there with specimens of this or the other >>>species mentioned, or one that >>>I do not already know about, please contact me on my >>>e-mail at --- >>> >>>>ju-bo@msn.com< >>> >>>Thanks, and good growing! >>> >>>Julius Boos, >>>WPB, >>>Florida. --------------------------------- Eugene Hoh Graphic Designer Symphony Australia Phone 02 8333 2554 Fax 02 8333 1690 hohe@symphony.net.au _______________________________________________ Aroid-l mailing list Aroid-l@gizmoworks.com http://www.gizmoworks.com/mailman/listinfo/aroid-l

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